Murder in Saanich

This blog has been created for the sole purpose of seeking justice for Lindsay Buziak. As a group of concerned citizens, we can do our best, in this case, to ensure that all information posted on this site is as accurate and factual to the best of our knowledge.  The investigators working on this file are the only ones who have the ability to substantiate/corroborate information and solve the case.

This site is for the exclusive use of serious individuals who wish to share their personal thoughts, working theories, and opinions.  We encourage you to express yourself freely. We believe in the “Freedom of Speech”, however any comments that contain inappropriate content that violates the TOS of word press will not be approved.

The Saanich Police, RCMP, Victoria Police,  and various other agencies have worked extremely hard on this case, yet it still remains unsolved. The investigators working on the case had this to say about Lindsay’s file:  “This is not a “cold case.” It is an open and active investigation. This case is very complex given the fact there was little to no forensic evidence found at the scene. All DNA was traced back to Lindsay. It is quite the norm for a police department to remain tight-lipped in a homicide investigation so they do not jeopardize the integrity of the case.”    “The solvability rate in a case like this is measured in YEARS, not months. There is no smoking gun in this case. Someone needs to come forward with that key piece of information. Someone out there has that information.”

Ninety-six percent of murder cases are solved within 48 hours, usually because the victim and the offender are known to one another. Murder investigations are solved in one of three ways – strong forensic evidence like DNA, footprints or fingerprints; direct or corroborated witness testimony that places the killer at the scene; or a confession from a suspect.

There is a lot of misinformation and fabricated stories circulating on various social media sites(mostly American run websites) so we would suggest that viewers focus on what the investigators  have shared publicly (timeline of events leading up to Lindsay’s homicide, Zailo family cleared and not suspects, the Buziak case is not cold, etc.)  The investigators are the only people who have “first-hand knowledge” of Lindsay’s file not members of the public.   There is a link provided below to  “Crime Watch Daily – Who Killed Lindsay Buziak – Murder For Sale” which aired in 2017.  One of the Detectives who is actively working on the file shared a few details about the case. The timeline of the Calgary drug bust appears to be one of their leading working theories. There are also links on the main page which may be useful.

If you have any information that could help in identifying the individuals responsible for Lindsay’s vicious murder please contact the Saanich Police at  Tips@saanichpolice.ca or Crime Stoppers at http://victoriacrimestoppers.ca/

We do not require the approval of anyone to run this website and no one has the right to try and censor the information we share.   Feel free to contact admin at murderinsaanich@gmail.com  if you have any questions or concerns pertaining to this website.  Thank you.

 

 

 

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262 thoughts on “Murder in Saanich

  1. I came across this story while sipping my morning coffee at Starbucks. This story reminds me of the small group of people on the internet who are engaged in a calculated, ruthless, smear campaign against the Saanich Police Dept. As a resident of Saanich, I appreciate the service of each and every police officer from the Saanich Police Department and I feel safe and secure living in our lovely community.

    Nazerali filed the lawsuit in 2011, after discovering he was the subject of defamatory articles published on DeepCapture.com, a website published by Byrne. The stories on Deep Capture falsely portrayed Nazerali as an arms dealer, drug trafficker, al-Qaida financier, and a member of the Italian and Russian mafias.

    ‘Now we’re into this era where people can do really serious harm to somebody’s reputation on the internet if they decide to use it as a weapon. And I’m going to call them on it and I’m going to hit them hard.’”

    In the 2016 decision, B.C. Supreme Court Justice Kenneth Affleck found the defendants — publisher Byrne, Deep Capture LLC, and article author Mark Mitchell — had “engaged in a calculated and ruthless campaign to inflict as much damage on Mr. Nazerali’s reputation as they could achieve. It is clear on the evidence that their intention was to conduct a vendetta in which the truth about Mr. Nazerali himself was of no consequence.”

    https://www.timescolonist.com/news/b-c/seven-year-online-defamation-battle-ends-with-1-1-million-award-1.23413297

  2. Who Is Really Responsible For Misleading The Public With Inaccurate Information About Lindsay’s Case?

    I read posts #1- #54 (below) on a website “unsolved mysteries”.  I felt it was important to address the misleading/inaccurate information in these posts and point out who is really responsible for misleading the public about Lindsay’s case.  It is NOT THE SP. It is people on social media. 

    click on the link to continue reading………

    https://murderinsaanich.com/whoisreallyresponsibleformisleadingthepublic/

  3. Vancouver Island Homicides Pt 1. A look at recent Vancouver Island homicide cases and why many remain unsolved

    https://www.cheknews.ca/a-look-at-recent-vancouver-island-homicide-cases-and-why-many-remain-unsolved-469519/

    Vancouver Island Homicides Pt. 2: Why are police so secretive?

    https://www.cheknews.ca/vancouver-island-homicides-police-secretive-469834/
    Extended Interview

    EXTENDED: Interview with Vancouver Island’s top homicide cop

    WATCH: Insp. Dave Hall is the officer in charge of the Vancouver Island Integrated Major Crime Unit. He sits down with CHEK News reporter April Lawrence to give an in-depth look at how the unit operates, why they’re so secretive, and why homicide investigations often take so long.

    https://www.cheknews.ca/extended-interview-with-vancouver-islands-top-homicide-cop-469846/

  4. In Lindsay’s case, it’s pretty apparent the murder was not committed in the heat of the moment. The killer’s had the presence of mind to meticulously cover their tracks (NO DNA or FINGERPRINTS).

    Joe Clayton is a primary crime scene responder at the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI). He has 14 years of field experience and also is an expert in certain areas of forensic science. “In Mr. Clayton’s opinion, shows like “CSI” aren’t making criminals any smarter. The truth is, crime scene investigation and forensic science are always trying to catch up with the criminals, not the other way around. And while there are certainly people who meticulously plan a crime and how to get away with it, Mr. Clayton’s experience with crime scenes tells a different story: Most violent crimes are committed in the heat of the moment. The perpetrator is in an agitated state, possibly under the influence of drugs or alcohol, and doesn’t have the presence of mind to meticulously cover his tracks. It’s the rare criminal genius who studies forensic science so he can commit the perfect murder and get away with it.”

    “It certainly makes it harder when these are pre-planned events and people have conspired beforehand to make sure they are not apprehended,” Horsley said.

  5. It has come to our attention that the ranter(s) are at it again. It’s a shame when they have to use the website of a poor murder victim as a platform to belch out one preposterous story after another to try and discredit anyone who doesn’t support their idiotic accusations and fatuous conspiracy theories.

    The admin on this site is not employed with the Saanich Police in any form whatsoever. I think paranoia has crept in and one particular ranter believes their own thoughts. The admin on this site discontinued their support of the other website for a variety of reasons and merely parted ways. The admin on this website has no desire to post comments on the other website nor have they made any attempts to do so. In fact, the ranter who is making these inane accusations has actually attempted on numerous occasions to post on this website. Their comments were not approved (due to inappropriate content that breached WordPress TOS). There have been a few other supporters from the other website who have emailed admin on this site with disparaging remarks. Regardless of your veiled threats, we will soldier on. Most of the verbal diarrhea is coming from one ranter. This particular ranter gave a perfect description of themselves in their latest rant.

    Thank you to all our supporters for the kind emails. As a group of concerned citizens, we will continue to do our best, to ensure that all information posted on this site is as accurate and factual to the best of our knowledge.

  6. The public has lost confidence in the SPD investigation we need an outside review of the file by an outside expert like Jim Clemente start to finish otherwise we are going on blind faith. The Lindsay case is solvable but seemed to lack focus and direction.

    • This is an active & open homicide investigation and anyone who thinks for one minute that the Saanich Police would turn over their files for review to a conspiracy theorist such as Jim Clemente is sadly mistaken. Jim Clemente does not solve murders. He creates drama and destroys innocent lives all the while reeling in huge financial gain. Waging a war against a police department for a murder that is not yet solved is irresponsible, and clearly the actions of ill-informed people. This case is in the hands of the SP and it will stay in the hands of the SP right where it belongs. Arrests will happen when there is enough evidence to get a conviction.

      Here is an article that was published in the newspaper a few days ago. 19-year old Devon Allaire Bell was murdered (stabbed in the heart) in a Surrey Park while playing basketball in 2011. (RCMP – IHIT case). His attackers were caught on video, and that video was made public. To date, no one has come forward to identify any of the 5 males in the video. Devon’s father said, “it’s painfully obvious that the police don’t have enough evidence to lay charges”. Devon’s parents live in anguish/pain but they have never once blamed the police for the lack of arrests. Like in Lindsay Buziak’s case the code of silence is a big part of why this case has not been solved. If anyone is to blame here it is the justice system that sets the bar too high for cases to be approved by Crown Counsel. RCMP and IHIT have their own unsolved murders to deal with just as Saanich does. Leave the professionals to do their job.
      http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/family-of-devon-allaire-bell-slain-seven-years-ago-in-surrey-at-19-still-searching-for-justice

      • As far as the SPD never allowing an outside expert consultant to analyze the Lindsay Buziak file you are most likely quite correct that is why there is going to be a push to have the file removed from their hands. The public has completely lost confidence in the competency of the SPD the only way to even begin to restore that confidence is to have an independent expert like Jim Clemente review the case file. Your comments regarding Jim Clemente are obviously designed to destroy his credebility in the readers mind, nonsense and under handed.

        • Good luck with your campaign to have a police file removed from a police department based on what you think is going on. You would require hard evidence to back up your baseless claims and unfounded accusations. You have none.

          Your comments regarding the SPD and the other agencies that have worked on this case are obviously designed to try and destroy their credibility. The public, Members of the Saanich Police Board(municipal police departments are overseen by an appointed police board made up of civilian members of the community, and the Mayor), RCMP, IHIT, and the RCMP Office of Investigational Standards and Practices, just to name a few, have full confidence in the competency of the SPD and it’s members regardless of your nonsense.

    • JKenda, the public has not lost confidence in the SPD investigation as you state. Have you conducted any legitimate polls or collected any stats from the public (other than the pseudos) to show the public has lost confidence in the SPD or is that your personal opinion? You are entitled to your own opinion but please don’t speak on my behalf as I am a member of the public domain and I have full confidence in the TEAM of investigators/outside agencies working on this case. They know Lindsay’s case is solvable.

      From my observations, I see a small group of ranters on social media who complain about the SP and then followers join in based on what the ranters say. JKenda, do you have access to the homicide file? How did you come to the conclusion “the case seems to lack focus and direction?” Your statements lack common sense considering you have no access to the case file, therefore, you have no idea what the investigators have been doing for the last 10 years. Lack of arrests means LACK OF HARD EVIDENCE to ARREST and CHARGE the individuals responsible for Lindsay’s murder(hence no identifiable DNA, fingerprints, confession, etc). That is the reality of this case. Lack of arrests in Lindsay’s case is NOT an indicator of poor investigative skills, poor job performance, corruption, etc. as some people would like their audience to believe. JKenda, perhaps you should have a look at the links provided on this site so you may have a better understanding of homicide investigations and charge assessment guidelines before you too pass judgment based on zero first-hand knowledge of the case.

      https://murderinsaanich.com/charge-assessment-guidelines-basic-principles-of-canadian-criminal-law/

      https://murderinsaanich.com/basic-principlas-of-canadian-law/

      There are hundreds of unsolved homicide cases in Canada due to the fact there was no “smoking gun.” It is simple as that. The SP has made it very clear that the killers did not leave any DNA, fingerprints, or other forms of forensic evidence at the crime scene that would lead to their identity. No one has confessed either. You can’t beat a confession out of someone! It appears as though the team of investigators knows who the conspirators are and possibly even the killers BUT, you need hard evidence and a SOLID CASE if you want CONVICTIONS! The disgruntled followers are too quick to jump on the bandwagon of what the ranters say. Be a leader, not a follower.

      As for any outside reviews conducted by outside experts, no one can do a review without access to Lindsay’s case file. Dateline did not even have access to Lindsay’s autopsy report(they did have access to some information) that is why they could only say: “Lindsay was stabbed dozens of times.” A reporter once falsely reported that the police said Lindsay was stabbed “54 times” then had to retract the statement. The police have never publically stated the nature of Lindsay’s wounds. Other’s have reported she was stabbed “20 to 30 times”. Jim Clemente had full access to the “JonBenet Ramsey” case file and he was NOT able to SOLVE the case or bring NEW EVIDENCE to light like he CLAIMED HE WOULD DO. All Jim did was literally MAKE UP A STORY ABOUT BURKE KILLING JonBenét. There is now a $750 million defamation lawsuit against Jim Clemente and others. https://murderinsaanich.com/example-of-a-witch-hunt/ As for Jim’s analysis on “OJ Simpson: The Lost Confession” Jim Clemente came to another lame conclusion that OJ lied and that OJ did in fact murder, Nicole. The whole world already knew that.

      We have our own experts in Canada from the RCMP Office of Investigational Standards and Practices which reaffirmed the investigational processes being undertaken by Saanich Police.

      • I have been looking into this case for about 8 years and have spoken with most of the characters concerned I am not an ignorant new comer I am also very familiar with you by the way, you could learn much from the information you posted your self or do you just cut and paste reams of info, I guess a Leopard cannot change his or should I say her spots. In the case of Jon Bennet Ramsey I hope you noticed the experts that worked as part of Clementes team are considered some of the best in the world if not the best. Notice also the conclusion of the experts is the only conclusion the evidence fits. Very good investigation Clemente and his people are also working the Casey Anthony case airing tonight on A&E we need them to look into the Lindsay Buziak case, the case is solvable but not solvable by sitting around the crime stoppers phone waiting for somebody to solve it for them. Saying the file is still being actively investigated to keep the file locked down is garbage.

        • To be quite frank, you sound like a broken record. Once a follower, always a follower. You are correct in that, a leopard never changes HIS spots, just HIS pseudos. We are also very familiar with you by the way. Who said, “the SP were sitting around the crime stoppers phone waiting for someone else to solve the case?” Repeating the same nonsense over and over again will not solve this case. Do you have access to the homicide file? How did you come to the conclusion “the case seems to lack focus and direction?” I noticed you did not respond to either question.

          I am also very familiar with the experts on the JonBenet Ramsey case and still hold the same opinion of their lame conclusion regardless of your rant. The $750 million defamation lawsuit against the so-called experts speaks volumes.

          cut and paste from WordPress: “Responsibility of Contributors. If you operate a blog you are entirely responsible for the content of, and any harm resulting from, that Content. By using WordPress.com, you represent and warrant that your content and conduct do not violate these Terms or the User Guidelines.”

          JKenda, we consider your comments claiming the SP are “incompetent” inappropriate so consider yourself blocked from commenting any further on this site. Thank you.

  7. What type of faux expert spends 22 hours 30 minutes and 8 secs creeping every page on another website (good read eh?) then copy and pastes the information over to another website after putting their own spin on it? Then they claim they conducted a review of the Saanich Police investigation (but never provided their own evidence or any evidence for that matter). The “faux expert report” was nothing more than a poor copy and paste job of cherry-picked information copied from another website. The information was then edited to fall in line with the faux report. The “comments” portion of the faux report was more manic rants by an “Expert Fabricator” who was obviously suffering from sleep deprivation. Imagine, spending day and night regurgitating the same manic rants and responding to them all too! Sounds like a manic, rabid, hyena who is obsessed! The ranters are the only ones making inconsistent statements.

    The only review that is relevant is the one conducted by the experts from the RCMP Office of Investigational Standards and Practices which reaffirmed the investigational processes being undertaken by Saanich Police.

    • Exactly!!! Ranters claim the police make inconsistent statements but the reality is, the REPORTER is the one who often mistakenly states the police said something when they didn’t. Here is a perfect example of a REPORTER who claimed the POLICE stated something they DID NOT, then RETRACTED it! (this is also a perfect example of how the ranters intentionally post inaccurate information to suit their own agenda). The autopsy results were sealed and anyone who would doubt that is lacking in common sense.

      newsarticle

      Lindsay Buziak’s brutal killing unsolved six years later
      24-year-old victim was stabbed to death in a $1-million home in Greater Victoria
      CBC News Posted: Feb 02, 2014 5:59 PM PT

      CORRECTIONS
      A previous version of this story mistakenly stated police said Buziak was stabbed 54 times. In fact, police have never released details of the stabbing.

      Feb 03, 2014 5:28 PM PT

  8. Dear Ranters:

    There are a few things I would like to point out. There is a small group of ranters on social media who believe they know everything about homicide investigations and how they should be run. The truth is, the ranters know nothing. That is quite evident after you read their comments.  This is likely the reason they fabricate endless stories and assassinate the character of innocent people, including the Saanich Police who have worked extremely hard on Lindsay’s case and continue to do so. Since one of the RANTERS mentioned this website in one of their manic RANTS I will address the truth here.  There were a few people who were involved in supporting another site and decided to part ways for a number of reasons. The RANTERS are once again attempting to mislead each other(their alter pseudos) and their viewers into believing these people left quite abruptly, to start their own site that they allege, is solely dedicated to defending the SPD and the Zailos (they neglected to mention these people believe in the guilt of the Del group not the Zailo’s). The RANTERS are claiming these people were threatened by the SP and are acting out of fear. This is yet another fabricated story to add to the long list of other fabricated stories they RANT about.   At NO TIME were any of the people who started their own website threatened by the Saanich Police but, they were threatened by others. These ranters have no credibility and that is obvious when you read their comments.   I heard the RANTERS have tried to get a few websites shut down because members of the public were openly expressing their disdain for the horrible civilian investigation the RANTERS are attempting to run. They got called out on their bullshit. These RANTERS believe they yield the power to criticize others, and fabricate stories but when they are criticized, and rightfully so, they don’t like it. They work hard on fabricating stories and try to shut down anyone who disagrees with their sinister behaviour. Anyone with a brain can see what is going on here. 

    Continue reading https://murderinsaanich.com/dear-ranters/

  9. When the Saanich Police solve this case and the accused are tried and convicted in a court of law, the Conspiracy Theorists and Internet Ranters will be shouting “‘YOU GOT THE WRONG PEOPLE!!” Then, they will demand the public write letters to “Innocence Canada” to help exonerate the individuals they will claim did not commit the crime. God help us all! The RANTING will never stop!

    • Dear Dateline Viewers, Internet Ranters, Conspiracists, Armchair Detectives, Puppets, Parrots, and followers:

      Sgt. Horsley’s statement on Adam Stirling Show: “We are, without any doubt aware that there are postings on there that are complete fabrications. These are people that are creating anonymous usernames, they’re posting nonsense and in some cases are deliberately postings things as though they’re facts. It saddens us that people are doing that, it probably saddens us even more that there is a large percentage of people reading and believing this RUBBISH. So, it makes it very difficult for investigators.”

      “It has been noted that Internet sites, blogs, and other social media platforms have provided a forum for much speculation relating to this murder and ongoing investigation,” said Leslie. “Although not actively participating, the Saanich Police are aware of the many falsehoods, accusations, and erroneous information posted on the Internet. While providing clarification is difficult, the investigators are aware that much of the posted information is either false, misleading, or deliberately fabricated.”

      He said the investigation conducted by the Saanich Police was subject to a review by the RCMP Office of Investigational Standards and Practices (OISP), which reaffirmed the investigational processes being undertaken by Saanich Police. As with all police agencies across Canada, the standards of Major Case Management (MCM) provide a strict framework relating to the manner and structure of the police investigational team. Also, Saanich Police participated in Strategic Advisory Groups with other homicide officers from across the Province including members of IHIT from the lower mainland. All of these steps were undertaken to ensure the highest level of investigational standards were being met.

      “Saanich Police have worked tirelessly with the RCMP and Victoria Police in partnerships to achieve success. After 10-years of work, we regret that success has not been achieved to date in our investigation,” said Leslie.

      http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/people-are-withholding-information-in-buziak-murder-case-police-say-1.23162412

      • Unfortunately, years ago I was once a believer in the zailo guilt and expressed my opinions and theories freely. I did not, however, partake in any malicious intent to spread lies, intentionally try and mislead viewers or fabricate stories about the Zailos or anyone else. I can honestly say, at that particular period in time I truly did believe what was being said about the Zailo’s. After all, why would people make it up? I was somewhat gullible I guess. The information made sense to me at that time but in retrospect, I believe I had tunnel vision and relied heavily on misinformation and rumors to form my theories.

        As the years went on I began to question the validity of the information sources and my opinions and theories began to change. It started to make more sense another group was involved and there was some real factual information to bolster that theory. I guess one could say I at one time participated in the witch hunt because I based my theory on speculation and misinformation rather than actual facts. For that I am sorry. I believe 110% the Zailo’s are innocent.

        Trial by social media or an online witch hunt, whatever you want to call them, have one thing in common, they’re dangerous, and in the anonymous land of cyberspace, often innocent people get caught in the crosshairs. I am not the same misguided, gullible person I was years ago. I try my best not to post unverified content and I feel I have learned a very hard lesson from past mistakes. I think social media can also be a useful conduit for communication, expressing opinions, and even helping with investigations.

        • I at one time believed the Zailos were responsible for Lindsay’s murder, and I didn’t hesitate to speak my mind. When too many things weren’t adding up & not making sense I knew I had made a mistake. I have learned not to believe everything I hear, to use common sense and trust my instincts and not rush to judgement. Often the truth is right in front of us, we just need to pay attention. It’s a refreshing change to see people lending Jason some support. It is very clear that Jason is not involved in this conspiracy to murder his girlfriend. I know it now, just wished I had not been so stupid back then to believe everything I heard. Often what we perceive to be the truth isn’t so.

      • The zailos were the victims of a witch hunt a long time ago.They were vindicated. There are a few remaining stragglers still carrying on but no one is paying attention.

  10. It’s been 10 years since Jeff Buziak’s daughter Lindsay was murdered. The young realtor was showing a home when she was stabbed to death.

    In the intervening decade, Buziak says he’s come to accept his daughter’s death, but he says he’ll never accept that police have not made an arrest.

    “[The] police know who killed my daughter,” Buziak said. “They know what is going on, and yet they can’t seem to take it over the goal line.”

    Buziak believes police have enough evidence to close the case, including a confession posted on a website Buziak maintains, dedicated to finding his daughter’s killer. But police say the case is still under active investigation.

    An ongoing investigation

    Sgt. Chris Horsely says Buziak is mistaken about the quality of the evidence.

    “He is really forming his opinions based on things out there [on] social media, internet, websites and blogs [that] are putting things out there that for the most part simply aren’t true,” Horsely said.

    “If we had the grounds to go forward to seek charge approval from Crown counsel, we certainly would have done so at this time.”

    Horsely said the investigation into Lindsay Buziak’s death is ongoing.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/buziak-murder-tenth-anniversary-1.4517977

  11. Global News interview: S/Sgt. Chris Horsley from the Saanich police gives an update on the Lindsay Buziak case on the tenth anniversary of her murder.
    https://globalnews.ca/video/embed/4000618/

    News Anchor: Well, police are renewing their commitment to the community a decade after the murder of a local realtor, 24-year-old Lindsay Buziak was stabbed and killed while showing a home in 2008, her killer has never been brought to justice. Joining us this morning is S/Sgt. Chris Horsley from the Saanich Police Dept. Thank you very much for being with us today. Now, tomorrow as you know, marks 10 years since Lindsay’s murder, I know this isn’t an easy question to answer but why haven’t we seen any charges laid?

    CH: Well, certainly it’s a complex investigation as all homicide files often are, sadly it has been 10 years and we certainly wish we’d had a quicker result for the friends and family of Lindsay Buziak, however, the investigation is still ongoing and we are hopeful that we will be successful in bringing those responsible before justice.

    News Anchor: I understand that there has been lots of information, tips, even confessions that have been posted online, how useful has that information been?

    CH: Well, the stark reality is, it’s been of no use whatsoever. You know I guess it’s a testament to the modern era we are in with social media platforms, websites, and blogs. We have people that are creating fake identities, posting anonymous information, even confessions like you mentioned. All of those have to be investigated and they were, unfortunately, those have been proven to be completely false and in many ways it makes what is already a hard task even harder we are having to go through this myriad of nonsense that people are posting anonymously and it certainly makes it far more challenging for the police.

    News Anchor: Now, considering you’re saying that a lot of these posts and confessions have been false is this a matter of having a suspect, someone in mind but not having the evidence to prove it?

    CH: Well, with any homicide investigation where it’s not readily apparent at the onset who’s responsible there may be many investigative avenues and we’ve certainly gone down lots of those, we’ve had suspects, we’ve ruled out suspects and we’re certainly continuing with our investigation but by no means is this a cold case. Therefore, it’s an active file with the Saanich Police and we certainly wouldn’t discuss our suspects openly on TV

    News Anchor: Of course but you do say this was a targeted, pre-planned, murder so someone went to great lengths to make sure no evidence was left behind?

    CH: Yeah, often there is a solvability factor with all homicides and you know you may have loads of forensic evidence, or perhaps witness testimony and of course other ones you’re lacking in those areas, and that greatly reduces that solvability factor however, we firmly believe every single homicide is solvable including this one but, you know it certainly makes it harder when these are pre-planned events and people have conspired beforehand to ensure that they are not apprehended. Those are definitely tougher to prove

    News Anchor: And, I understand police believe that there are people out there withholding information, what’s the message you want to get out right now?

    CH: Well, we certainly know that there was pre-planning for this event, we know that more than one person was present at the actual crime scene we also know that theres likely conspirators that acted beforehand so we firmly believe there is a reasonable sized group that have personal and first-hand knowledge, those are the people that we’ve always sought out and we will continue to do so, unfortunately, of course, it often gets lost in the white noise of social media with people posting things that they really don’t have that first-hand knowledge of.

    https://globalnews.ca/video/4000618/saanich-police-renew-commitment-to-lindsay-buziak-unsolved-murder

    • Saanich Police believe multiple people have first-hand knowledge regarding the murder of Lindsay Buziak.

      The 24-year-old realtor was stabbed to death while showing a home in Saanich’s Gordon Head neighbourhood on Feb. 2, 2008.

      “As with other pre-planned and targeted murders, the perpetrators and/or conspirators have taken steps to avoid apprehension by police. We believe multiple persons have personal and first-hand knowledge regarding the murder of Lindsay Buziak and have withheld this information from police,” said Sgt. Jereme Leslie with Saanich Police.

      He said Saanich Police have worked tirelessly with the RCMP and Victoria Police in partnerships to achieve success.

      “As with all criminal offences in B.C., the standard of Crown counsel charge approval must be met. Saanich Police are continuing to work towards success in this investigation, and the case remains active and ongoing as we move towards a successful conclusion to this investigation.”

      The community will show its support for Buziak’s family at Friday’s Lindsay Buziak Memorial Walk for Justice which starts at 10 a.m. outside Royal Oak Burial Park. It will wind its way to the site of the murder before ending outside Saanich’s Municipal Hall.

      Jeff Buziak has continued his pursuit of justice for his daughter, relentlessly searching for answers in her murder. He set up a website, lindsaybuziakmurder.com, where individuals can anonymously share tips. A shocking confession was posted to the website last year, something police are aware of.

      “It has been noted that Internet sites, blogs, and other social media platforms have provided a forum for much speculation relating to this murder and ongoing investigation,” said Leslie. “Although not actively participating, the Saanich Police are aware of the many falsehoods, accusations, and erroneous information posted on the Internet. While providing clarification is difficult, the investigators are aware that much of the posted information is either false, misleading, or deliberately fabricated.”

      He said the investigation conducted by the Saanich Police was subject to a review by the RCMP Office of Investigational Standards and Practices (OISP), which reaffirmed the investigational processes being undertaken by Saanich Police. As with all police agencies across Canada, the standards of Major Case Management (MCM) provide a strict framework relating to the manner and structure of the police investigational team. Also, Saanich Police participated in Strategic Advisory Groups with other homicide officers from across the Province including members of IHIT from the lower mainland. All of these steps were undertaken to ensure the highest level of investigational standards were being met.

      “Saanich Police have worked tirelessly with the RCMP and Victoria Police in partnerships to achieve success. After 10-years of work, we regret that success has not been achieved to date in our investigation,” said Leslie.

      https://www.goldstreamgazette.com/news/police-believe-several-people-have-information-on-unsolved-murder/

        • Media Releases

          10 Year Remembrance of Lindsay Buziak Murder

          On February 2, 2008, local realtor Lindsay Buziak was murdered in the Gordon Head area of Saanich, British Columbia. Since this date, investigators from the Saanich Police have worked diligently to identify, apprehend, and prosecute those responsible.

          As the investigation approaches the 10-year milestone since Lindsay’s murder, the Saanich Police wish to reaffirm their organizational commitment as they work towards justice for Lindsay Buziak and her family and friends.

          It has been noted that Internet sites, blogs, and other social media platforms have provided a forum for much speculation relating to this murder and ongoing investigation. Although not actively participating, the Saanich Police are aware of the many falsehoods, accusations, and erroneous information posted on the Internet. While providing clarification is difficult, the investigators are aware that much of the posted information is either false, misleading, or deliberately fabricated.

          The murder investigation conducted by the Saanich Police was subject to a review by the RCMP Office of Investigational Standards and Practices (OISP), which reaffirmed the investigational processes being undertaken by Saanich Police. As with all police agencies across Canada, the standards of Major Case Management (MCM) provide a strict framework relating to the manner and structure of the police investigational team. Also, Saanich Police participated in Strategic Advisory Groups with other homicide officers from across the Province including members of IHIT from the lower mainland. All of these steps were undertaken to ensure the highest level of investigational standards were being met.

          Saanich Police have worked tirelessly with the RCMP and Victoria Police in partnerships to achieve success. After 10-years of work, we regret that success has not been achieved to date in our investigation. As with other pre-planned and targeted murders, the perpetrators and/or conspirators have taken steps to avoid apprehension by police. We believe multiple persons have personal and first-hand knowledge regarding the murder of Lindsay Buziak and have withheld this information from police.

          As with all criminal offences in British Columbia, the standard of Crown Counsel charge approval must be met. Saanich Police are continuing to work towards success in this investigation, and the case remains active and ongoing as we move towards a successful conclusion to this investigation.

          Sgt. Jereme Leslie

          SPD File 2008-02682 refers http://saanichpolice.ca/index.php/media-releases/1235-10-year-remembrance-of-lindsay-buziak-murder

          • People are withholding information in Buziak murder case, police say

            Saanich police say they have worked diligently for the past 10 years to find the people responsible for the murder of Lindsay Buziak.

            On the eve of the 10th anniversary of her murder, Saanich police sent out a statement reaffirming their commitment to get justice for Buziak, her family and friends.

            The 24-year-old real estate agent was stabbed and killed while showing a vacant home in Gordon Head on Feb. 2, 2008.

            Saanich police said they believe a number of people have personal and first-hand knowledge of her murder and have withheld this information.

            “Saanich police have worked tirelessly with the RCMP and Victoria police in partnerships to achieve success. After 10-years of work, we regret that success has not been achieved to date in our investigation. As with other pre-planned and targeted murders, the perpetrators and/or conspirators have taken steps to avoid apprehension by police,” the statement said.

            Lindsay’s father, Jeff Buziak, has been highly critical of the police investigation. He has created a website about her murder.

            Saanich police say websites, blogs, and social media platforms have provided a forum for a lot of speculation about the murder and the investigation.

            “Although not actively participating, the Saanich police are aware of the many falsehoods, accusations, and erroneous information posted on the Internet. While providing clarification is difficult, the investigators are aware that much of the posted information is either false, misleading, or deliberately fabricated,” the statement said.

            The Buziak murder investigation was reviewed by the RCMP Office of Investigational Standards and Practices. Saanich police also participated in strategic advisory groups with other homicide officers from across the province including members of the Integrated Homicide Investigation Team from the Lower Mainland.

            All of these steps were undertaken to ensure the highest level of investigational standards were being met, said Saanich police Sgt. Jereme Leslie.

            “As with all criminal offences in British Columbia, the standard of Crown counsel charge approval must be met. Saanich police are continuing to work towards success in this investigation, and the case remains active and ongoing as we move towards a successful conclusion to this investigation,” said Leslie.

            At 10 a.m. Friday, Jeff Buziak will lead a 17-kilometre Walk For Justice starting at Royal Oak Burial Park. passing the house where Buziak was killed, and ending up at Saanich Municipal Hall.

            ldickson@timescolonist.com

            http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/people-are-withholding-information-in-buziak-murder-case-police-say-1.23162412

            • It’s good to see the SP set the record straight. It was so tiring reading the long winded rants demanding the SP hand the investigation over to the RCMP. The RCMP have been working on the case all along. Let’s hope people let it all sink in. Justice for Lindsay!!

              • Jenny don’t hold your breath.The ranters will never stop ranting about the RCMP, the Zee’s, where J-z parked his truck, shirl did it,j-z sat outside for 30 minutes, email the MPs, write the PM, SP need to solve this even though they have explained the complexity of the case, it goes on and on and on. You can’t lead a bunch of wild horses to water or force them to drink it. They refuse. giddy up

              • I agree, the public needs to start trusting what the police are saying but for some reason many won’t. Jason Zailo was ruled out as a suspect years ago and the ones who continue to target him are not helping the situation.

    • I wish the people who are withholding information would cooperate voluntarily like the Zailo’s did. The individuals who are withholding pertinent information are the reason why this case remains unsolved!!!!!!

  12. Hey guys did you hear about vid? He was partying hard in saanich and got his ass thrown in the slammer. Assault with a weapon.Sure as shit his girl bailed his dumb ass out and took him home.

  13. The only reason Lindsay’s murder case is not solved yet is that it is a very complex case and one can only assume there is not enough sufficient evidence to move the case forward, YET. The police likely know who the conspirators are and most likely the reason why they spent a considerable amount of their time in Calgary early on. We know the Zailo family do not live in Calgary. The majority of people in Victoria know the Zailo’s are not involved and know the Delalcazar crew are likely the top suspects. It is clear the Zailo’s still has all the same support from their friends, co-workers, etc. and they continue to thrive in their careers. On the other hand, people are scared of the Del crew and this is one of the reasons people are afraid to come forward. The Del crew have a reputation for being extremely violent. Especially, Vid and Erickson. The SP seems to be focused on the Del crew, not the Zailo’s. The SP are the ones investigating the case and know all the facts, not the web detectives. Web detectives tend to manufacture stories because they don’t know all the facts so they make them up as they go along. Others come along and read that as being the “gospel truth”. So much misinformation out in the world wide web on this case.

    The case is complex because there was no DNA or fingerprints that could identify the killer’s, little to no forensics, no eyewitnesses, no confession, no murder weapon, NO SMOKING GUN! This makes the investigation EXTREMELY COMPLICATED! The Dateline experts gave their opinion that this case would NOT BE SOLVED based on “forensics”. “Someone who has information about Lindsay’s murder needs to step forward. This case will be solved based on “loose lips”. There are numerous cases across Canada that remain unsolved. Not all murder cases are solved in the first 48 hours.

    Cases that are solved within the first 48 hours usually have an abundance of evidence at the scene and other supporting evidence that pointed directly to the killers. Maybe even a confession in some cases. The Kimberly Proctor case is a perfect example of a case with a “smoking gun”.

    In a 2008 news article Saanich Police said public tips weren’t needed to solve the case. A month after the killing, the family considered putting up a reward, but the police told them they had sufficient information and there was no need to do so. A logical conclusion would be the SP were aware who the conspirators were in early 08. Sounds like someone was going to give up some information but later balked which stalled the investigation. The only way this murder is going to be solved is when someone talks! Criticizing the police and accusing them of being corrupt and involved in the murder will not speed up the process in solving the case. Unfortunately, when you have insufficient evidence because the killers were careful not to leave any, you have to rely on “loose lips” and that can take many years. I notice some people will criticize the police and in the next breath, they are quoting what the police said and instruct people to pay attention to what the police said. That is hypocritical in my opinion. Either you believe they are corrupt or not. You can’t have it both ways.

    2008
    “When you don’t have a smoking gun, the investigation is COMPLEX, and I believe that the majority of your readers know that,” said Price.

    2009

    Police consider it a “whodunit,” not a simple “smoking gun” homicide, McColl said. “It’s common that these investigations are measured in YEARS, not MONTHS.”

    2017

    Saanich Mayor Richard Atwell, who saw the walkers off as a show of support, said Saanich police have worked hard on the case. “What the case really needs is it needs a LEAD, it needs another lead,” he said. “All the leads up to this point have been pursued and they’ve reached either a dead end or they’ve reached a level where the officers feel that they would not be able to achieve a result in court that would end up in a solid conviction.”

    Saanich police Acting Sgt. Jereme Leslie said the case remains open and active, although the investigation isn’t being carried out full-time. It is not considered a cold case, he said.

    “Investigators work multiple files as the normal course of duty in the detective division,” he said. “All tips and leads are triaged appropriately as they’re received.”

    Leslie said that while officers have been transferred into and out of the police effort over time, the main people have been there from the start.

    “The key investigators have always retained continuity of the investigation,” he said.

  14. This murder has all the components of a woman’s involvement. A woman scorned can be lethal and dangerous, and violations of trust are most often the cause for vengeful actions, in some cases a simple rejection can be the trigger,“not-so-quiet” retaliation is usually a trigger-haired response to a buildup of anger and pain. Yeh I’m certain this murder is connected to the Calgary bust but there’s more to this. Angry drug dealers would have sat in wait outside Lindsay’s home or office, then on sight, put a bullet in her head. The person that masterminded this murder knew Lindsay’s schedule, knew how much Lindsay loved her real estate career and was becoming successful, and would love a big commission sale. I see this woman as conniving and calculating who knew how she could deflect the investigation in another direction. Sure enough it worked. Not sure who the woman is but it’s someone who was insanely jealous and wanted Lindsay gone. Maybe this woman’s goal was to get back at a man who had rejected her, and that man was someone who loved Lindsay. What a better way to get back at someone that had wronged you then to take out the person they loved. Lindsay was no snitch so if this woman lied and said she was, and the drug dealers called the hit based on that information then that woman knowingly sent Lindsay to her death. If this is how it went down, then this woman even used the drug dealers to achieve her goal. Now they’re all involved so no one can give up the other.

  15. When the suspect couple called Lindsay they both told her they got her cell number from a friend. When Lindsay asked the female suspect how she got her number she said “a FRIEND of my husbands”. Apparently, the female suspect told Lindsay she did not know the name of the friend as it was her husband’s FRIEND. This information aligns with the information the male suspect provided to Lindsay when he called Lindsay the next day. Lindsay, again asked how he got her number and he said “HIS FRIEND”. It appears to me that the suspect couple did not give Lindsay the name of the person. One of Lindsay’s former colleagues was interviewed by the press a few days after Lindsay’s murder and basically corroborated this story. There were earlier rumors circulating around town that the female suspect gave Lindsay the name of one of her former clients and that Lindsay tried to contact the former client but could not reach her. That rumor only fuelled more speculation that only a realtor would know Lindsay’s former clients therefore only a realtor could be involved in Lindsay’s murder.

    February 5, 2008, news story:

    The first call was from a woman with a strong foreign accent, said one of Buziak’s colleagues at the Re/Max Camosun office. “The woman asked to see properties in the $1-million price range in quiet neighborhoods and had to buy in a day,” said the realtor. “The second call was from a man. That made her uncomfortable because he wanted to meet her alone. He said his wife couldn’t meet her there. “I heard she was uncomfortable about the whole thing because it was so out of the blue. “The call was on her cell phone. ‘Hey, we’re coming to town and we want to buy a million-dollar house.’ “I heard other people in the office warned her that this was a bit weird. Someone said to her, ‘That’s a little bit strange.’ ” Buziak asked the caller how he got her number. He said he got it from a friend. “She didn’t know the people and started getting nervous and said ‘What do I do about this,’ ” said the colleague.

    The following quotes taken from a news story states Lindsay was not apprehensive about the showing;

    “Media reported widely that Buziak expressed trepidation at the showing, but Saanich police yesterday dismissed those reports, saying while Buziak felt the showing was unusual because she was not the listing agent, she wasn’t apprehensive about it.

    “While some reports indicated Buziak asked her boyfriend, real estate agent Jason Zailo, to check on her at the house, Horsley said Zailo went to the house because he had real estate documents for Buziak to sign.”

  16. You know what I think? The popo know Lindsay was murdered because of the largest cocaine bust in Alberta history.It doesn’t matter what internet detectives think.

  17. The FACTS outlined in the articles below substantiates the Calgary drug bust timeline and the DATE Erickson was arrested which was PRIOR to the other 12 individuals whose arrest was well after Lindsay’s murder. The safe containing 42 kilos of cocaine was OPENED on January 28, 2008. Police had earlier seized 25 kilos in total from Erickson/Graham. In total 67 kilos of cocaine was seized following ERICKSON and Graham Scott Taylors arrest. The burner phone that was used by the killer couple was activated LATE January 2008 as per news reports. It was confirmed by some of Lindsay’s friends that the mystery female called Lindsay at her home on approx. Jan 30th and February 1, 2008. The male called Lindsay the morning of February 2, 2008. In all, a half a dozen calls were placed to Lindsay. Burner phones are often purchased in bulk (not a large quantity from the same store, but rather a number of phones purchased from different outlets) and drug traffickers have a supply on hand. (as per news article: “The cell phone the couple used to contact Lindsay was purchased late November 2007 at a Vancouver convenience store. The phone was activated late January, 2008 in Vancouver. The phone travelled to the Island 24 hours prior to Lindsay’s murder. Vancouver is from where the first calls to Lindsay were made, confirmed by hits on cell towers in the city. Police said at least half dozen calls were made to Lindsay and after her murder the cell phone was never used again.) The SP are aware the burner phone was purchased November, 2007 and that the purchase was made prior to Lindsay’s trip to Calgary in December. Regardless of when the burner phone was purchased the Calgary drug bust seems to be the leading theory of the SPD.

    The articles clearly state the 12 other individuals were arrested AFTER Erickson and the 67 kilos that were seized followed Erickson’s arrest. You can’t argue with FACTS or a timeline that shows a very strong motive.

    Excerpts from 2 news articles – one dated June 2009 and the other one dated January 23, 2008.

    Jun 08, 2009 11:25 AM MT “The investigation began in January 2008 when police twice seized cocaine from a home on Hawthorne Drive in northwest Calgary. Two men, one from Calgary and the other from Victoria, was arrested and charged.”

    “Police continued to investigate and eventually arrested 12 more people, all but one from Calgary. They each face multiple drug-related charges, although two were recently charged with conspiracy to traffic cocaine.”

    Over a several-month period, these individuals are alleged to have used a number of vehicles with hidden compartments to transport drugs between the provinces. It was during the transport that police were able to stop these vehicles and seize another 13 kilograms of cocaine,” said Cave, reading from a statement.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/cocaine-bust-largest-ever-in-alberta-police-say-1.851044

    January 23, 2008 “At approximately 9 p.m., on Tuesday, January 22, 2008, members of the CPS Drug Unit conducted a traffic stop in the 300 block of Hawthorne Drive N.W. Inside the vehicle officers discovered five kilograms of cocaine worth an estimated $150,000. An additional $105,000 in cash was also found. Further investigation led drug unit officers to a home on the same block. A search warrant on the home revealed a further 20 kilograms of cocaine worth an estimated $600,000, as well as another $112,000 in cash.

    During the execution of the search warrant at the residence, a large safe was located in the garage.

    This safe was opened on Monday, January 28, 2008. Inside, police discovered 42 kilograms of cocaine, valued at $1.26 million.

    In total, 67 kilograms of cocaine was seized as a result of this investigation, with a value of over $2 million. The street value of these drugs is estimated at $6.7 million.

    “This is now the largest seizure of cocaine in the history of the Calgary Police Service,” said CPS Drug Unit S/Sgt. Monty Sparrow.

    Graham Scott TAYLOR, 30, of Calgary, and Erickson Lopez DEL ALCAZAR, 28, of Victoria, B.C., are charged with one count each of possession of cocaine/crack for the purpose, and
    possession of property obtained by crime.

    http://www.narcoticnews.com/news/cocaine/2008/calgary-police-seized-67-kilograms-of-cocaine-and-217000-in-cash/

    **NOTE** I agree with the experts on DATELINE that the DRUG CARTEL who supplied the cocaine to Erickson and crew were likely, not involved in Lindsay’s murder. They had no motive to kill Lindsay. Erickson and crew paid off the DRUG CARTEL for the cocaine that was seized, therefore, the DRUG CARTEL suffered no losses. It was Erickson and crew who had the motive to murder Lindsay as it was they who lost millions and millions in revenue NOT THE DRUG CARTEL.

    I also agree with the experts on DATELINE that JASON had NOTHING to do with Lindsay’s murder and the conspirator’s had a history of violence and a criminal background. Jason and family had neither. It is really interesting to note that both on Dateline and on Crime Watch Daily the investigators were focused on the Calgary drug bust and have only positive things to say about Jason and family.

    IRREFUTABLE FACTS stated by a highly, experienced Detective:

    “The phone was only ever used for one thing and that was to phone Lindsay Buziak,” said Horsley. “It’s a level of planning that clearly shows Lindsay Buziak was the target. The issue is was she really the target or was she a scapegoat of convenience?”

    According to one theory, the answer to that may be tied to somewhere Lindsay went the December before her February murder.

    “In January before her murder, the largest drug bust in Alberta history occurred,” said Sgt. Horsley. “We’re talking millions upon millions of dollars’ value in cocaine. The people that lost the drugs know that someone spoke to the police.”

    “She does not personally appear to have any enemies, so what is the motive for the killing?” said Horsley.

    Police do have some strong theories though. One of them tied to a trip Lindsay Buziak made to Calgary just six weeks before her murder.

    “This was in December and the murder was in February,” said Sgt. Horsley.

    Apparently, while Lindsay was in Calgary, she reached out to an old acquaintance from Victoria, once by phone and another time through Facebook.

    “We don’t know the nature of the call. We don’t know why she called him. We don’t know she was on his Facebook site,” said Sgt. Horsley.

    What they do know is that the person she contacted was the family member of a man named Erickson Delalcazar, and that shortly after Lindsay went back to Victoria, Delalcazar, along with 13 other people, was caught in the biggest drug bust in the history of the province.

    “What we can say is that people lost a lot of money and the people that lost the drugs know that someone spoke to the police,” said Horsley. “A witch hunt occurred where people were being questioned, people were being pulled out of their beds in the middle of the night and asked ‘Who have you spoken to?’ because they know someone spoke to the police.”

    “Really, what it’s become is a modern-day witch hunt, and it’s just an internet witch hunt,” said Sgt. Horsley. “So it’s an ongoing issue and whether it affects the potential trial down the road, I don’t know. I’ve had those discussions with Mr. Buziak because it is potential that it could impact our successful prosecution.”

    What is important is to rely on the FACTS and EVIDENCE provided by the investigators who appeared on Dateline and Crime Watch Daily. They focused on the Calgary drug bust, and Lindsay’s association to KNOWN drug traffickers within her large circle of friends, which included ERICKSON. Lindsay herself was NOT INVOLVED in crime or drugs BUT, she was associating with PEOPLE WHO WERE and the police do have EVIDENCE who Lindsay associated with. There is NO DISPUTING the FACTS. The drug angle is the LEADING THEORY in her murder and that was stated on DATELINE by the investigators. The Zailo’s were not even discussed on either show because they are not suspects.

    One of the Dateline experts Alan Jackson said this: “It wasn’t Jason. Let’s not forget, what’s rule number one of committing a homicide? You don’t bring a witness to a homicide, he had someone with him. The perfect alibi is NOT that YOU drive right to the house where the murder took place that YOU HIRED OR HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH, you don’t DO THAT!”

    THE IRREFUTABLE FACTS:

    2010: Speculation about the killing of a Victoria real estate agent has prompted police to hold an extraordinary news conference to quell rumours about the involvement of the victim’s boyfriend and his family.

    Lindsay Buziak was killed in February 2008 after being lured to a vacant property in the Victoria suburb of Saanich by a couple who had phoned her to arrange a showing of the home.

    A story on the U.S. television news show Dateline last Friday about the slaying of the 24-year-old led to speculation that Buziak’s boyfriend and his family were responsible, police said Wednesday.

    “We feel that it was important to clear the air,” said Saanich police Sgt. Dean Jantzen. “Fingers had been pointed as a result of this program.”

    Jantzen said police willingly participated in the Dateline story in the hope it would generate new leads in the investigation.

    But the news story also created problems for the family of Jason Zailo, Janzten said.

    Family co-operative

    Zailo was Buziak’s boyfriend, and he and a friend found her body in the $1-million vacant house she had been scheduled to show to the mystery couple.

    Jantzen said Zailo and his family are not suspects in the case.

    The Zailo family … have met with our detectives … of their own free will, voluntarily, and have satisfied every investigative request that our detectives have had of them,” Jantzen said.

    2011: “Jantzen says the CVSA was not used at any point during the unsolved Lindsay Buziak case, though polygraph tests were administered the investigation.”

    2017: “Mr. Zailo and his friend were under intense police scrutiny. However, Mr. Zailo was cooperative with police,” said Sgt. Horsley. “He also partook in a polygraph exam, and he passed.”

    “Based on forensic evidence, timeline of communications, witness testimony, video surveillance, we know he’s not the killer,” said Sgt. Horsley. “Was he perhaps somehow involved in the planning? Well, he successfully passed a polygraph and he successfully took part in all these interviews with us. So at this point in time he’s not considered a suspect.”

    • If only 2 people were arrested in that Jan bust & Erickson Delalcazar is the Victoria connection with ties to organized crime, then it’s no wonder him and his friends have been the main focus of this murder investigation since the 08 bust. Did he or someone in his group have the power to call a hit? They just lost millions so they had reason to want whoever turned them in to pay the price. Lindsay’s boyfriend has no criminal past, and I haven’t seen anywhere that he had connections to Erickson or his friends. Even if Lindsay was leaving him so what, couples break up all the time, it’s hardly a reason to want her dead. Jason may have been doing everything he could to get Lindsay to distance herself from that group of friends in order to maintain her clean reputation in the real estate business. People need to look at the facts in this case and maybe they’d see things differently.

    • Thank you for providing the detailed posts. They are well laid out and easy to follow.After carefully reviewing the material the only motive that appears to fit with the timeline of Lindsay’s murder is the Alberta bust. I have long suspected some of these people had something to do with Lindsay’s murder.I have been following this case from the onset and there were things being said about the Zailos that did not add up. It was tidbits of information passed on down the line and we all know how unreliable that can be. After reading the posts I am in agreement with what the detectives have said. There has definitely been a witch hunt going on in regards to the Zailos. I can understand why people come to the Zailo’s defense.Especially if they know the truth.
      I live in Victoria and the Zailo’s are a well-known, successful family.They are very well liked in the community. They have many dear friends who have stood by them and supported them. What strangers are saying about them is simply not true.

      I think everything will sort itself out when the case is solved.

    • Like many others I do not question Jason Zailo’s innocent for one minute. I realize the gossip will never stop but anyone looking at the facts will realize he was not involved. The guy is a victim of circumstance, and I’m convinced he was set up. Lots of people have a good idea what happened and have talked to the cops. People need to remember that Lindsay’s old boyfriend of 5 years was friends with Erickson, Vid & others involved in the drug trade. I don’t think her ex is involved but like others, he might know who is. The Avneet poster definitely knows who’s involved and I doubt he ever went to the cops. Who does the guy think he is defending drug dealers. OUR guys – OUR streets. Such a display of egotism. The cops already know who is responsible for this murder, so they don’t need to talk to Avneet. His post would only go to solidify what they already know. The drug dealers are the suspects in this murder, always were and always will be. The only ones with real motive.

  18. As a long time social media critic my job is to critique blogs, and my main interest has always been real crime. Online blogs are in abundance and the numbers grow every day. Can you trust every blog you read on the Internet? No. Blogs have the flexibility to include a personal slant or bias, and because there is no accountability structure in place for fact checking and monitoring, people will post with content that is inaccurate, so readers need to do some fact checking on their own and not believe everything they read. It is important for a blog to give the readers a reason to trust that you are providing them with truthful information. There are some blogs out there on the Internet that are questionable at best. But, there are countless blogs out there that are filled with valuable information that can effectively connect writers with their intended audience.

    Blogs that discuss “real crime” should be aware that the victim should always be the centre & focus of justice. A credible blog promotes “informed” discussion and debate, and it’s job is to create and sustain an audience. Readers want to hear the truth, and it is a blogger’s duty to only post what they know to be true.

  19. FACTS: Erickson Delalcazar was NOT BEING WATCHED FOR ONE YEAR as stated by a poster.This is totally FALSE information. Erickson was in JAIL following his arrest on January 22, 2008. ERICKSON DELALCAZAR was being watched for approximately TWO MONTHS not ONE YEAR. The other 12 individuals were arrested between MAY 2008 and DECEMBER 2008 as a result of surveillance AFTER the police search at the Hawthorne address/Erickson’s vehicle search. Alycia LeBruyn’s fingerprint was also found on one of the bricks of cocaine that was seized.

    FACTS: Staff Sergeant Bossley was the lead investigator on a joint Calgary City Police and RCMP Investigation named “Operation High Noon” into suspected cocaine trafficking between British Columbia and Alberta. The investigation was conducted by the Drug Undercover Street Team from November 2007 to December 2008.

    Okay, this is where it gets tricky. Pay particular attention to the TIMELINE and DATES of when ERICKSON was arrested versus when the other 12 were arrested (you can read these FACTS from the court transcript rather than listen to hearsay).

    Since the investigation began NOVEMBER 2007 it was likely due to someone SNITCHING on Erickson. This would explain why the investigators were surveilling Erickson on the night of January 22, 2008. Typically, an investigation begins when someone snitches to the POLICE about a drug operation. Note, the investigation was looking into “SUSPECTED COCAINE TRAFFICKING BETWEEN BC AND ALBERTA.” The person who snitched likely had inside information that certain individuals were funneling cocaine into Alberta from BC. and reported this to the CCP/RCMP sometime in November 2007. This information resulted in the start of the investigation. Staff Sergeant Horsley also provided information to Crime Watch Daily in 2017 and said “the people involved in the Calgary drug bust KNEW SOMEONE HAD SPOKEN TO THE POLICE and a witch hunt occurred.” This information confirms there was a snitch. Some claim there was no snitch. Losing millions of dollars in revenue is a very strong motive for murder. The FACTS above supports the working theory that someone snitched on Erickson. He was the only one who had been ARRESTED prior to LINDSAY’S MURDER, besides Graham Taylor.

    It is NOT at all a far reach for anyone to believe that Lindsay was murdered due to Erickson’s arrest. Erickson may have believed Lindsay was the snitch that resulted in his arrest on January 22, 2008, and the loss of 67 kilos of cocaine. Rg was Lindsay’s best friend so it is not a far reach for Erickson to think Lindsay may have been the snitch. Especially if Rg made a subtle hint to Erickson that Lindsay was the snitch. The ONLY TIMELINE that is key here is the date of Erickson’s arrest and the date Lindsay was murdered. Lindsay was murdered 11 days after Erickson was arrested. The remaining 12 individuals involved in the Calgary drug operation were still conducting business and were all arrested months after Lindsay’s murder. There was NO elaborate planning needed to carry out Lindsay’s murder in my opinion.

    Some believe the conspirator’s had to start planning Lindsay’s murder as early as November because that’s when Lindsay decided she was going to leave Jason and the re/max office. Lindsay did not mention to her Father about leaving Jason until DECEMBER and Lindsay did not mention this to her friends until DECEMBER so how does NOVEMBER fit into the picture?

    The SPD has a leading theory and it has nothing to do with the Zailo’s.

    • Don’t forget what Erickson’s friend Avneet had to say about Lindsay.

      avneet

      AVNEET: >>> “The loss of innocent life is always unfortunate and sad; however, there are no innocents in this game. If you snort coke recreation-ally (largest user base of coke), you’re part of the problem. If you date or hang out with drug dealers, and you live off their proceeds of crime, then you’re part of the problem. Yeah, you could do away with Vid and the gang, only to have their replacements ready and willing to take over, and they could be far worse. OUR guys have kept the Vancouver gangs off OUR streets, who are 100 times worse than these guys. Is that what you want? Drive by’s and shootings? These guys have the kept the streets clean of them. Who else is going to stop them? The people on this forum? Please.The war on drugs is a failure; it’s best to try and control/regulate it then to try and prohibit it; street level dealers don’t bring drugs into the country, Vid and his gang don’t bring drugs into the country; they allegedly distribute them when it arrives in the country. The people that bring coke into the country are private business owners, corporations and white collar folks, but I don’t see anyone chasing after them, you all want to blame the local boogeyman. So, what do you think would happen to someone that tries to extort a drug dealer with major connections? I suspect the same thing would happen when you try an extort and important politician or business man. Also, extortion is illegal.”

      Avneet was basically trying to blame Lindsay for being murdered. Typical coward move. Avneet also confirmed his friends Erickson/VID had MAJOR CONNECTIONS. I assume those MAJOR CONNECTIONS were the DRUG CARTEL who supplied Erickson and company the cocaine that was SEIZED in the Calgary drug bust. Avneet also gives his friend VID some credit for keeping the gangs off our streets. Avneet claims the people bringing coke into the country are private business owners, corporations, and white collar folks yet Erickson and company were ALL UNEMPLOYED at the time of the bust. It was they who sold off their assets to pay back the drug cartel the money they owed for the cocaine that was seized not the white collar folks.

      More facts that supports the working theory that Lindsay was murdered due to the Calgary drug bust.

      • ” If you date or hang out with drug dealers, and you live off their proceeds of crime, then you’re part of the problem.”

        Is Avneet referring to Jeppers lady in his post? As far as I know, Jepper has never had a real job and is a known drug trafficker. So is Jepper’s lady living off the proceeds of crime? What about Vid’s lady? Vid is unemployed and is a known drug trafficker too. I feel bad for their kids.

        As for Lindsay, she was gainfully employed and so was Jason. Avneet must have been referring to himself and his own friends when he wrote that post.

  20. It’s so obvious the boyfriend was set up. He didn’t need to show up at the scene to create an alibi. If he was involved he could have gone to the bank, used the ATM and been seen on camera, been in a pub with a group of friends or been away for the weekend with people that could vouch for his whereabouts. Only an idiot would choose a house that was listed with their own company, then show up at the scene of the crime. Who the hell cares where he parked his car, as for going straight upstairs do any of us really know what we would do in a panicked situation such as this? The stairs were right in front of him so it makes perfect sense he would go that way.

  21. I think someone tried to set up the boyfriend but failed miserably at it. They must be lacking some brain cells cause the coppers know who did it. Such an amateur move. The only ones who were fooled are the fools who believe he did it.

  22. This smells of a set up to make others look guilty when they are not. It’s like when someone murdesr a loved one and then rifle through all the drawers to make it appear to be a robbery. It’s so lame and so stupid to even think cops would fall for that. There is a good reason they are cops and we are web detectivdes. I do not believe for one second that the mom and husband murdered this young girl.

  23. It seems pretty obvious to me after watching both episodes the detectives know who is behind the murder.One of the investigators mentioned they had no DNA that could ID the killers so no wonder this case is still not solved. Yes, they have forensic evidence but not in the form of prints or DNA matches.

    If the drug gang was not involved why did they pressure people and want to know who they talked to?

  24. I’ve said this before but I’ll say it again, it is not unusual for a loyal network of criminals involved in a conspiracy to commit murder to remain silent. It is well known the investigators have been on the tail of the Del group for years and they have REFUSED to cooperate. RG has been approached multiple, multiple, times and REFUSES to cooperate. She has made it very clear she does not like the police. What criminal does? These people are loyal to each other and they likely have some type of guarantee in place so no one can double-cross the other. RG’s loyalty will always remain with the Del group and her best friend Vid. They are family. She has nothing to fear because she is likely the mastermind. Why would she rat on herself? That would be silly.

    The team of investigators has been very clear in that there were no DNA and or fingerprints that could lead them to the identity of the killers. There has been no confession. The only way this case will be solved is by “loose lips”. The experts on Dateline made that point in 2010. The mastermind is certainly not going to talk. If it wasn’t for the mastermind the murder would have never taken place.

    The Zailo’s fully cooperated with the investigation and partook in a polygraph. They were cleared in 2009 and again in 2010. Someone is obsessed with the Zailo theory so they are putting a new spin on the conspiracy theory by claiming the Z’s forced RG to murder her friend. Just a bunch of nonsense and zero evidence to support the theory. It wasn’t too long ago they claimed Aaron Perez did it and even claimed a police officer was the stabber.

  25. I heard thru the grapevine there has not been a criminal profiler in this case. I’ve been meaning to stop by and give my analysis in this case. My analysis is now complete and I would like to brief you on my final report. From everything I have read about this case, there is no doubt in my mind Lindsay was murdered by some of the perps associated with the Calgary drug organization. The drug bust timeline, the murder timeline, and the perps connections to Lindsay cannot be disputed. What we have here is “motive”, “opportunity”, and “means”. I have even factored in the perps “post-offence conduct” and “history of violence”. Circumstantial evidence is based on reasoning and inference-drawing through probability. One must apply logic, common sense and experience to the evidence. One must consider the inherent probabilities and improbabilities, frequently eliminating the possibility of coincidence. I am satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt that the only rational inference that can be drawn from the circumstantial evidence is one of guilt. I have given some serious thought about where Jason parked his vehicle that night but in my professional opinion I do not believe that is a motive for murder nor is it relevant evidence.

    I would like to weigh in on the conspiracy theory that Jason and his Mother orchestrated this horrendous murder. In my professional opinion, simply put, there are people who suffer from severe “tunnel vision” and they are not open to integrating any new thoughts or evidence as it becomes available.

    In my professional opinion, there is a reason vigilante justice doesn’t work. Within the curfew of a witch hunt, due process and unbiased investigation take second priority to WRATH and the injudicious perception of justice. We see the bandwagon kicking into gear, and using the age-old fallacy that the more popular a claim is the more likely it is to be true, we join in.

    • Read about the JonBenet Ramsey murder in the US to see how easy and plausible it is for people to believe a major conspiracy theory only to eventually find out it was nothing more than a delusion based on unsound argument all made up for a TV show. The experts seemed like nice enough people but they lacked the skill to solve the case and left themselves wide open to a lawsuit that has been filed against them. One which they are sure to lose.

  26. I just watched Dateline and there is no circumstantial evidence to even SUGGEST that Jason is involved in LIndsay’s murder. Why are so many viewers freaking out about where he parked his car? What does where he parked have to do with a murder.

  27. RG was in a relationship with vid at the time of Lindsay’s murder. Vid is a very violent individual. The Delalcazar’s also has a history of violence against women. A person with a history of violence is more likely to murder someone than a person with no history of violence. Jason has no history of violence or history of drug trafficking. However, Erickson Delalcazar who was arrested in the ALBERTA DRUG BUST and IMO is a very viable suspect in Lindsay’s murder is currently facing SIX counts of assault (domestic). One of the investigators on Lindsay’s case stated publically “You can be a person who just works and minds their own business in Victoria, yet through a very brief network of FRIENDS, you could be absolutely CONNECTED to people that are INVOLVED IN VERY BAD THINGS”. RG has admittedly bragged about seeing large volumes of drugs on a regular basis and it was no big deal to her. She had no problem engaging in relationships with drug traffickers and violent individuals. Look at her past history. R fears no one. R left the REMAX office to make it appear as though she feared her Manager. It was all for show. If she truly feared her Manager she would have left REMAX long before February 2008. Moreover, RG never gave any reasons for her fear. Just like she never gave any reasons for her suspicions the Zailo’s were involved in Lindsay’s murder.

    RG claimed she would do anything to help find justice for Lindsay. She had plenty of opportunities to cooperate with the investigation and partake in a polygraph exam. She declined. RG does not like the police and has admitted that openly. It has been said by many that if RG was involved in Lindsay’s murder than she was likely the mastermind. IMO a woman was the mastermind behind this murder. RG had the intelligence to pull it off, the others did not. A news article quoted Detective Horsley as saying “the brutal nature of the slaying might have been INTENDED to make it APPEAR to be a “crime of passion” or to send a message. RG was the first person to point her finger at the zailos as being behind Lindsay’s murder without giving any reason for her suspicion. If she did give a reason for suspecting the Zailo’s it was “Lindsay told me she might leave Jason.” A theory soon developed that Lindsay was murdered because she was leaving Jason. The rest of the innuendos soon followed to strengthen that theory. The investigators are not on the trail of the Zailo’s they are hot on the trail of the Delalcazar group and have been since February 2008.

    Erickson and friends were unaware someone ratted on them until the 4th week in January 2008. They beat down doors and dragged people out of their beds demanding to know who talked to police. They did not beat down the door at Jason and Lindsay’s residence and drag them out of bed. During this timeframe the crime phone had not yet been activated which suggests they had not yet planned on who they were going to kill, IMO. If RG pointed her finger at Lindsay as the rat she would have no need to fear any retribution from the Delalcazar’s. Why would she if she was part of the conspiracy? RG is considered part of that family, so to speak. She remains loyal to them. As someone mentioned in another post, these people are loyal to each other and they likely have some type of guarantee in place so no one can double-cross the other. It’s been 9 years and this murder remains unsolved. No one has come forward with key information pertaining to this case. If RG did pin the blame on Lindsay, she had her own personal reasons for doing so. This murder was “personal”. One of the detectives said “while Buziak was clearly the INTENDED target, she may have been slain BASED ON MISINFORMATION”. He also stated “It is also possible Buziak’s killers were under the MISTAKEN IMPRESSION she had REVEALED INFORMATION she shouldn’t have, he said, or perhaps that she was somehow CONNECTED to a dangerous person WITHOUT KNOWING it” ” This same detective spoke on Crime Watch Daily and said “The phone was only ever used for one thing and that was to phone Lindsay Buziak,” said Horsley. “It’s a level of planning that clearly shows Lindsay Buziak was the target. The issue is was she really the target or was she a scapegoat of convenience? Based on some of what the Detective said it sounds highly plausible someone could have blamed Lindsay for the Alberta bust. The Detective further suggested, “that Lindsay was a target of this murder but it may have been a target of opportunity where they needed to solve a problem and she was the solution.” IMO, if the members of the drug group were behind Lindsay’s murder, all they needed was a burner phone (which they had a supply of as they were in the drug business), an empty house they could lure Lindsay to (RG was aware of DeSousa listing) and the right connections to enlist a couple to carry out the murder. They could have very easily orchestrated this murder in less than two weeks. The motive here is strong!

    I have yet to see the detectives on Lindsay’s case appear on television and suggest one of their working theories was the Zailo’s did it. However, they have publically discussed the Alberta drug bust as one of their working theories.

    • Is it possible RG wanted to see her friend Lindsay dead? Is there a narrative that can make some sense of this. She had the opportunity but where is the motive?

    • Webber!!!! Finally someone who has a superior intellect! #yougowebber #welcometothefold Clearly you can see the forest through the trees. Unlike that F’n darkly lover #whatshername #CSIgonewrong? Maybe that darkly lover should create a hit show for wild theories gone wrong You cant create a script like this! #Go hit the streets! ##whiteisright #supportyourownkind #Fakenews #freethezailos

    • The violence the Delalcazar brothers inflict on innocent people just never ends. The only way the brothers ever dealt with conflict was with violence.
      Erickson Lopez Delalcazar – currently in custody again.
      Geez, how many times has this guy been in custody since 2008.

      I don’t see Jason Zailo in jail ever. What’s that all about?

  28. Statements that fall within the traditional categories of hearsay exceptions are presumptively admissible. They can nevertheless be challenged under the principles of necessity and reliability.

    The traditional categories of exceptions consist of the following:

    Where the statement is an admission by an accused person
    When the statement is made against the declarator’s interest
    When it is made in the course of the declarator’s duty
    When the statement is part of a public or governmental document
    Dying declaration
    Statements made when the declarator was in a state of shock or surprise
    Statements describing the declarator’s physical or psychological condition
    Sworn testimony from a previous hearing
    Past recollection recorded
    Statement conveys “state of mind”
    Statement conveys “present intentions”
    Statutory exceptions
    Statement is part of the narrative of the evidence

    Co-Conspirators

    The co-conspirators’ exception to hearsay permits the admission of out-of-court statements made by a co-conspirator.

    The Crown must prove:

    that there was a conspiracy
    that the accused was a member of the conspiracy
    the utterance was in furtherance of the conspiracy.

  29. I watched the Dateline show and read the comments on their site. I get why Jason and his friend didn’t panic and smash the windows to gain entry into the house. They wanted to act like full grown men and figured they would call the police first and request a “welfare check”. That shows they did not panic. Calling the police first would be the normal response for people who are concerned about someone. Can you imagine if Jason didn’t call 911? People would be talking about that too for 7 years. People are still talking about the way he parked 7 years later and it’s not even relevant. It’s just plain weird to me. Whether Jason parked facing away from the house or whether he parked on the side of the road, that’s all they talk about and that’s the only thing they learned from the show. They don’t have any other evidence to support Jason was involved in murder so the only thing they can focus on is his parking. That’s just weird. Thankfully, these people are not running the investigation. They would still be measuring the angle of Jason’s vehicle to see how close to the curb he parked.

  30. Well with that theory, you just gave the BF a motive If she hooked up with the ex like you suggest. You defend the BF without any question and attack the ex and Rianne. Looks like maybe you afraid of somebody? You describe the ex as violent and dangerous and Rianne as a psychopath and allege that she conspired to murder her friend out of jealousy and used her connections to violent drug dealers. You place the BF above suspicion, hiding his background and connections on your site. If these things you report here are true, attacking dangerous people (who know who you are) on social media is pretty stupid, unless you know what you are saying is total bullshit.

    • polygraph, I watched the crimewatchdaily episode and the boyfriend is not under suspicion. Why are you alleging people are hiding the boyfriend’s background? The boyfriend is employed as a mortgage broker and that is public knowledge. I read FMWS’s post and I don’t see anything in their post that suggests they are protecting anyone or afraid of anyone. You don’t sound like a very credible poster because you are accusing another poster of saying things they did not say. Why would you do that? That is very odd behavior in my opinion.

      • So much negativity focused on Jason, and I don’t get why. He’s been cleared. I personally think the ex-boyfriend’s actions are far more suspect. His breakdown on the dateline show seemed fake and I have to wonder why he was even on the show. if he was the ex and had been out of Lindsay’s life for at least a year there was no need for him to be there. I’d like to know the reason he felt the need to appear on the show. Guilt maybe, or trying to make himself look like a good guy when he might not be one at all. Something to think about.

        • I agree, there is a lot of negativity focused on Jason but I believe that’s a case of trolls on social media who have no idea about the case. Therefore, they are left to talk about minor details which have no relevance to the case.

          Don’t be too quick to jump to conclusions about the ex-boyfriend. His actions on Dateline may be genuine just like the actions of the other boyfriend.

  31. Bloggers are consistently pointing the finger at SZ claiming she lied on dateline about Lindsay telling her she was afraid of M. SZ had no motive to lie about M because S’s son was not a suspect and he had already been cleared by the SP. Lindsay’s own Mother suspected M as being involved. Mother always knows best.

    I’m not trying to blame M or anything. I have no idea if he was involved. I just think it looks pretty suspicious that M was still connected to Lindsay at the time of her death and that Lindsay was distraught over M the day before she was murdered. Something isn’t adding up here.

    • I wonder how differently things might have been if Jason and his mother had never agreed to appear on the Dateline show in 2010. They were seen as guilty by millions of viewers and what an injustice that is if they were innocent and only trying to do the right thing by Lindsay. I no longer base my entire opinion on the dateline show being that it is ten years old. The recent Casefile podcast and Crime watch daily has cast an entirely differently light on another group of suspects. It’s looking like Jason & his mother may not be guilty of anything. I guess doing the right thing doesn’t always turn out to be the right thing to do. For everyone’s sake I hope someone is arrested for this murder soon.

  32. I just watched Crime Watch Daily and was surprised to learn that some people close to Lindsay declined to be interviewed for the program. I can understand why Jason declined, the last time he appeared on Dateline he was crucified for being honest. The events of that night have not changed. The events make complete sense regardless of how many times they are dissected. It’s not Jason’s fault that some viewers can’t see the forest for the trees. Nothing has changed since Jason’s last interview in 2010. He was cooperative with the police. There is nothing more he can say. He gave a full account of the events and based on forensic evidence, a timeline of communications, witness testimony, video surveillance, a successful polygraph exam, and successfully completing numerous interviews the cops are satisfied and said he’s not a suspect. My main concern is why the other persons of interest have not cooperated with the authorities and never participated in a polygraph exam.

    As for the others who declined an interview, I’m sure they had their own valid reasons for declining.

  33. I don’t know who is responsible for Lindsay’s murder nor do I know much about any of the people that anyone posts information about. What I do know is the relationship between Matt and Lindsay was NOT good. Of course they had “good” times but most of the time it was tumultuous and very unhealthy, VERY unhealthy. Witnessing what went on between them during their relationship, day after day,…I was convinced Matt was behind it from the beginning.

    Please know that everyone close to Lindsay has their reasons for who they stand behind…Please respect their beliefs and opinions. Do not judge anyone.

    Lindsay was a wonderful caring individual and was loved by so many people. She would be giving everyone big hugs and thanking everyone who is taking the time to try and help solve her murder.
    RIP Linds…We all miss you
    xox

  34. I watched the dateline show a few days ago and I just have one comment about the boyfriend’s mother. I think her actions when her son looked like he might cry was a knee jerk reaction to a highly sensitive moment. No mom wants to see their child hurting and if the boyfriend was suffering from PTSD or any trauma stemming from his girlfriend’s murder his mother would be very concerned.

  35. I just watched the dateline episode last night. I have one question, why would the mystery couple or anyone else allow their electronic tracks to be traced? Everyone in their dog is aware of cell pings and cell phone tracking so why would anyone involved in a major crime such as murder have their phone turned on and the battery in place knowing their electronic tracks would be traced? The phone travelled to the Island Friday evening sometime. So why not remove the battery first? I don’t believe this is a case of a dumb criminal. More like a diversion. Nothing else about the dateline show stood out to me.

  36. I watched the show and it is so clear to me that most of the information about the boyfriend comes from commenters and not the detectives who actually worked on the case and know whats true n false. The mother took a walk with Lindsey the day before and told her she was afraid of her ex-bf. I believe that because the cops had been called on the ex bf before and some of her friends confirmed and even the ex confirmed on the show that they had a tumultuous relationship. That was one of the reasons she broke up with the ex. The cops were never called on her current bf at that time. The cops would have confirmation of the walk so no point in trying to lie about such a thing. Lindsay never got the name of the referral client the couple just told her it was a friend of her husbands. Jasons friend had checked the main floor of the house so thats why jason ran directly upstairs. Jason was asked to meet Lindsay there so I can understand why he and his friend found the body. Nicki got a call from jasons mom and there was a logical explanation for the call and the cops were satisfied, thats all that matters. Someone made up the part about the accent. I hope this case is solved soon.

    • i saw comments on dateline fb site about the builder being friends with the boyfriends mother but I believe that is all nonsense. Noone in their right mind would plan a murder and choose a house that belonged to their personal friend. Someone also made up a rumor that the builder owned a coffee shop with the mother but that turned out to be false too.

      • The builder and the boyfriends mother were definitely not friends. If that was true Shirley would have been asked to market the builder’s property. She wasn’t. The builder listed with someone else. You can only make sense of something when you know the truth.

  37. I just finished watching the Dateline episode ‘dreamhouse mystery’. Such a tragic case. My heart goes out to the family. I noticed the detectives seemed to talk more about the drug bust theory. My interpretation was they thought they were going to solve the case early on but hit a wall. The only resolution, in this case, will be when someone comes forward with some good information. Tough case.

  38. One of the hallmarks of a murder is the degree of separation taken to re-direct an investigation. Misdirection has been at the forefront of Lindsay’s murder before it ever took place. This was a greed & revenge killing and that can mean only one thing. The drug dealers were out for payback, unfortunately they took out the wrong person in the process. What I want to know is why did they go out of their way to set up others, hoping they would take the fall? It makes no sense.

  39. After watching the Crime Watch Daily show I am just sickened by this horrific murder. That poor girl!! Seems like the majority of the readers believe Lindsay’s murder is tied to the drug bust in Alberta. I am in agreement with that analogy too. These people don’t like to get their hands dirty so often they employ people on their payroll to settle a score for them. They are nothing but cowards!!! When you cross people dealing at that level there is blowback. I am not implying Lindsay crossed anyone but perhaps they may have perceived it that way. What strikes me as odd is the fact that this girl had no criminal history and from all outward appearances did not associate with any heavy players in the drug business. From what I’ve read she had connections to the guy Ericksen so maybe he had some connections higher up? What about her friends? Sometimes you have to look at her inner circle to find answers. Was any of Lindsay’s friends tied to the drug business? This case if baffling.

  40. I just saw the show crimewatchdaily episode hosted by ana garcia. What a tragic loss for the family. My heart goes out to everyone who loved and knew lindsey. My initial thought was the ex-boyfriend but changed after the police officer spoke. It sounds like this murder is drug related and someone who personally knew lindsey helped the drug traffickers in the murder plot. From some of the comments I have read lindsey knew some of the drug traffickers personally and knew a secret so I think that was the motive. I hope the monsters are put behind bars.

  41. I just watched Crime watch daily it is a very informative show. I don’t believe the boyfriend or his mother are involved, there’s no motive that I can see. It makes more sense her murder has a drug connection.

  42. I just watched the same episode as JenPeterson and was so outraged at the obvious suspects – the drug cartel . Fingering Jason and his Mom was the obvious deflection clear as day.

  43. I just watched the Crime Watch episode…never heard of this murder before but 4 things came to mind. The drug bust. The ex bf. The drug cartel. Jealousy. Jealousy is a monster.

  44. Saw Lindsay’s story on CrimeWatchDaily. Just a few of my thoughts:

    1. Remote possibility, I know, but was any connection to her real estate job explored and any close friends with jealousy issues?

    2. I think the dress the woman wore was a deliberate act to put the focus on the couple as hired killers brought in to commit the act. In other words, draw attention away from the real culprits. Pretty brazen if you ask me. Sounds like the dress was a dead end. The cop said it could be purchased at any department store.

  45. I just watched the crime watch daily show and can’t believe it is so obvious. I believe the drug bust is the motive and lindseys murder was arranged by the cartel. Lindsey may have heard something.. Wow! . So obvious to me!

  46. hi,
    I watched the dateline show last night and crime watch show. At first I was leaning towards the new boyfriend but after watching the other show I changed my mind. I don’t think either of Lindsey’s boyfriends was involved. I think this murder has to do with drugs.

  47. The SP cleared Jason Zailo as a suspect years ago yet the public continues to crucify him. He passed a polygraph, and cooperated with law enforcement. Jason, his family, and friends attended the 2011 memorial walk for justice and Jason was interviewed by the press on that walk. Every time there is a Dateline rerun he is crucified once again. Though the dateline experts all said, “it’s not Jason” the public found him guilty based on his outward façade and perceived his mother’s behavior to be covering for him. The SP have been after the Calgary Drug Bust group right from the beginning, but many refuse to take the word of the cops. It seems some will stop at nothing and will continue to crucify this young man with no evidence whatsoever, other than his behavior seems a little off. I think it would be wise for Jason Zailo to contact the Dateline show and ask them to stop the re-runs of the show because all it is doing is continually re-victimizing the Zailo family.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7PpDdpGCBg.

  48. The so-called reinvestigation of the JonBenet Ramsey case – a prime example of a “WITCH HUNT”!!! I noticed the experts on the JonBenet case even made up a story that Burke killed his sister. That is exactly what some posters have done by claiming Shirley’s retired SP officer b/f was the mastermind and stabber. That is the most reckless comment I have ever read. First of all, Shirley was in a relationship with a different man in 2008, secondly, where is the evidence to support a retired police officer was involved in the murder? After watching the so-called experts MISLEAD viewers about the JonBenet Ramsey case and reading viewer comments some people actually believed Burke killed his sister. The same is happening in Lindsay’s case. Some readers are believing misleading comments and false information about the Zailo’s.

    3 Big Ways ‘The Case of: JonBenet Ramsey’ Got It Wrong – From confirmation bias in the 911 tape analysis to dissecting an ‘appropriate’ response to death, how CBS’s documentary didn’t tell THE WHOLE STORY

    A complete reinvestigation is what CBS’s The Case of: JonBenét Ramsey promised, but the only thing they delivered was a witch hunt that culminated in naming Burke Ramsey, JonBenét’s then nine-year-old brother, as her killer, and implicating John and Patsy Ramsey in a coverup.

    Absent of any NEW physical evidence or MEANINGFUL NEW witness statements, the fruits of this reinvestigation, led by former FBI agent and criminal profiler Jim Clemente and behavioral analyst Laura Richards, were almost ENTIRELY SUBJECTIVE, at times DANGEROUSLY MISLEADING and DEPENDENT ON A FLAWED POLICE INVESTIGATION that will very likely never result in the killer being brought to justice.

    Confirmation bias, selective hearing and the misleading 911 call analysis
    The first step in Clemente and Richards’ reinvestigation was analyzing Patsy Ramsey’s 911 call, specifically an inaudible portion at the very end when the phone clicked but did not disconnect. Because the operator did not hang up, the call continued to record, but no one has ever been able to conclusively decipher the extremely muffled, inaudible voices heard faintly in the background. Clemente and Richards made a vague reference to this analysis, BUT DIDN’T DISCLOSE that it had been leaked and that they were aware of its conclusions, as any investigator in this case surely is. INSTEAD, they claimed they were going to use “more modern audio technology” to figure out how many voices were on the tape and what they were saying. A cursory review of the Twitter reactions to this segment indicates that many viewers could not make out any of what Clemente and Richards claimed to hear. “In the headphones it was incredibly clear,” Clemente tweeted, the implication being that despite devoting substantial time to playing back the audio over and over again, viewers should just trust what Clemente and Richards said they heard.

    Clemente and Richards presented themselves and their team of investigators as INFALLIBLE, THEIR EXPERTISE AS INARGUABLE AND THEIR OPINIONS AS INDISPUTABLE FACTS. More than once, they made UNPROVEN, DISPUTED or MISLEADING STATEMENT WITHOUT PROVIDING FURTHER EVIDENCE, like the claim that John Ramsey disappeared for an hour and a half the morning of the murder – in actuality, he was in his study and the Boulder police just didn’t notice. They also RUSHED to DISPROVE ALTERNATE THEORIES. After one attempt to get through a replica model of the basement window, Clemente and Richards concluded there could not have been an intruder because the spider web in the corner was “destroyed” and the real spider web in the Ramseys basement window was undisturbed.

    Yet when laying out their theory for Burke Ramsey as the killer, these experts literally MADE UP A STORY ABOUT BURKE KILLING JonBenét (on accident or in anger, but probably unintentionally) by hitting her in the head with a flashlight because she took a piece of his pineapple. The proof? JonBenét had undigested pineapple in her stomach. Even if this theory had been proven back in 1996, at age nine, Burke would have been too young to be legally prosecuted in Colorado, and he certainly couldn’t be held responsible for any horrendous cover-up instigated by his parents. To unleash a witch hunt on him now without rock solid proof of guilt is a cruel ratings ploy.

    The repercussions of depending on such controversial evidence go beyond this case, as jury members (the majority of which are not educated in the law) are often asked to weigh similar evidence and testimony when deciding guilt or innocence. The Case of oversold the same flawed methodology that has manipulated juries and resulted in countless wrongful convictions, coupled it with cherry-picked evidence and an extreme case of tunnel vision in order to finger a nine-year-old for a 20-year-old cold murder. That’s disturbing and irresponsible, no matter who killed JonBenét Ramsey.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/3-big-ways-the-case-of-jonbenet-ramsey-got-it-wrong-w440970

    Read Burke Ramsey’s 108 page “Complaint For Defamation” against CBS, Jim Clemente, Laura Richards, W. Spitz, and Henry Lee the SO-CALLED EXPERTS.

    1. This defamation action is brought by Burke Ramsey to redress the permanent damage to his reputation resulting from Defendants’ false accusation that he killed his sister, JonBenét Ramsey.

    17. Defendants’ accusation that Burke Ramsey killed his sister was based on a compilation of lies, half-truths, manufactured information, and the intentional omission and avoidance of truthful information about the murder of JonBenét Ramsey

    https://www.scribd.com/document/335233640/Burke-Ramsey-Complaint-vs-CBS-Et-Al

    • Unfortunately, years ago I was once a believer in the Zailo guilt and expressed my opinions and theories freely. I did not, however, partake in any malicious intent to spread lies or fabricate stories. I can honestly say, at that particular time I truly did believe certain things that were being said about the Z’s and thought it was highly possible they conspired to have Lindsay murdered. The information made sense to me at that time but in retrospect, I believe I too had tunnel vision and relied on misinformation to form my opinions.

      As the years went on I began to question the validity of the information sources and my opinions and theories began to change. It started to make more sense another group was involved and there was some factual information to bolster that theory. I guess one could say I myself participated in a Witch Hunt because I based my theory on speculation and misinformation rather than actual evidence. For that I am sorry. Trial by social media or an online witch hunt, whatever you want to call them, have one thing in common, they’re dangerous, and in the anonymous land of cyberspace, often innocent people get caught in the crosshairs. I am not the same misguided blogger I was years ago. I try my best not to post unverified content and I feel I have learned from my past mistakes. I think social media can also be a useful conduit for communication, expressing opinions, and even helping with investigations.

      • We may have thrown away the pitchforks and replaced them with keyboards, but witch hunts are still very much as alive as they were hundreds of years ago.

        Hundreds of years later, little has changed.

        Dubbed “Trial by Social Media”, online witch hunts work in very much the same way. The accused is identified, judged and condemned for an alleged transgression, and subsequently exposed to the angry, accusing townsfolk. There is no fair trial. No chance to hear both sides of a story. No critical analysis and no following the evidence. Once the bandwagon has started, it is very difficult to stop.

        But online, where information can be disseminated across the globe in seconds, social media witch hunts put their offline equivalents to shame. To put it in colloquial terms, social media witch hunts are witch hunts on steroids. They go quicker, bigger and reach more people than their namesake witch hunts ever could. Instead of having dozens of angry voices baying for your blood, you may have tens of thousands.

        Trial by Social Media condones vigilante justice

        Either explicitly or by implication, “Trial by Social Media” is essentially a call to arms for those that work outside of law enforcement to take the law into their own hands. We are not only asked to judge, to harass but sometimes to identify and condemn.

        We live in a world with legal justice systems, and whether you agree or disagree with your legal system or with a specific sentence handed out, there is still never a place in any civilized world for vigilante justice, whether it’s online or offline.

        And established legal justice systems are not just designed to deliver punitive sentences; they are also there to create a fair hearing so the truth will (or should) ultimately prevail and misinformation dismissed, which leads us to our next, very important point…

        Trial by Social Media campaigns don’t get their facts straight

        There is a reason vigilante justice doesn’t work. The baying mob is unlikely to have – nor care about – the facts. Within the curfew of a witch hunt, due process and unbiased investigation take second priority to wrath and the injudicious perception of justice. We see the bandwagon kicking into gear, and using the age-old fallacy that the more popular a claim is the more likely it is to be true, we join in.

        Which is why social media witch hunts usually have their facts wrong, or at the very least present only one side of an argument, omitting the inconvenient facts that disrupt the angry rhetoric.

        Legal Influences

        Legal influences. Particularly viral posts about real cases have the potential to influence legal proceedings. So if charges are ever brought against guilty parties, damaging and libelous posts can make it difficult to prosecute.

        In high-profile cases, “Trial by Social Media” could cause prejudice in jury pools which could potentially cause cases to be dismissed because of unfair trials.

        Internet culture needs to change

        While our witch hunts have evolved and are now largely orchestrated through 21st century technology, it still represents a relic part of our human nature, and that needs to change. With the ability to bring our accusations in front of millions of people with a click of a mouse, witch hunts can reach more people, faster and easier than ever before.

        Which is why we all need to be careful about what information we choose to share online, especially concerning information that vilifies, accuses and condemns others. The risks of collateral damage is just too high, and when we hit share, we don’t have the luxury of foresight.

      • My advice is, never trust a so-called source pretending to be a supporter seeking justice for a murder victim. It is a well-known fact that suspects align themselves with people who are close to the murder victim AND align themselves with people involved in a parallel investigation simply to gain counterintelligence. The biggest red flag is in the suspects QUESTIONS and LACK of GENUINE SUPPORT! If someone really wants to help they will show you with action NOT QUESTIONS!!! If their help is sincere, redirect them to the authorities and encourage them to share what they know to the authorities. The authorities have the investigative tools and techniques to determine the validity of the information the public does not.

        Suspects will often infiltrate people much in the same way undercover police do in “Mr. Big” operations. The suspect will build a relationship with you to gain your confidence then make you believe they are sharing helpful information with you when in fact it is false information. The suspect has one goal in mind, they want you to divulge information to them about the parallel murder investigation. Typically, the suspect will learn about your personality and habits prior to developing a relationship with you. Once the friendship is established there is an increase in communication.

  49. When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it – always. Mahatma Gandhi

  50. Never doubt the capabilities of the Saanich Police Department. Just when we least expect it they will make arrests in Lindsay’s unsolved murder. They have what it takes to make it happen.

    Saanich Police Dept and the Victoria Police Dept are honored with two experts who use winning proactive, innovative uses of forensic technologies. Bob Elder is now retired but he has left his mark as has Shane Coughlan of Saanich.

    Elder was recognized for a method of recovering data from devices, while Coughlan found a way to identify fingerprints covered by pen ink.
    Two Greater Victoria forensics officers are revealing some of their investigative secrets after being recognized with an international forensic science award.

    Retired Victoria detective Bob Elder and Saanich Const. Shane Coughlan received the Vollmer Award from the International Association of Chiefs of Police in Philadelphia last month. The award honours proactive, innovative uses of forensic technologies by law enforcement. The two local officers were selected from hundreds of submissions around the world, said Saanich Police Chief Mike Chadwick.

    “The fact that two officers from the Greater Victoria region were selected to receive awards in forensic discipline is extremely unique,” Chadwick said. “Both Shane and Bob should be proud of their achievements.”
    The work of forensic investigators is glamourized by television shows such as CSI and Dexter, but rarely does the public get a glimpse of real-life crime-solving techniques.

    http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/island-forensic-sleuths-honoured-for-new-methods-1.691277

  51. My heart breaks for Lindsay’s family and for so many other families that have suffered the loss of a loved to the hands of murder or a child gone missing never to be found. Is it justice denied, justice delayed or a justice system that just isn’t working? My friend’s younger sister Delaine was just 13 at the time she went missing in August 1983. Her badly decomposed body was found in a field South of Manning Freeway in Edmonton a few months later, and at that time everything pointed to a serial killer. Delaine’s murder changed their lives forever, taking it’s toll as the years passed them by. Today they still pray that one day an arrest will be made. They have never given up hope.

    The family of young Michael Dunahee who went missing from Blanchard Park in Victoria in 1991 still cling to the hope that one day their son Michael will be found. Their community was their strongest support then and today. Crystal and Bruce have always been strong advocates for justice They are to be commended for their perseverance through this terrible nightmare they have endured. They have carried on their lives never blaming anyone for Michael’s not being found.

    This morning’s news headlines brought tears to my eyes, at the same time saddened and angered me as I am sure it did many others. The mother and uncle of Jassi Sidhu were on a plane awaiting extradition when at the last minute were taken off the plane when a BC court ordered a delay. An honor killing in 2000, 17 years have passed and the mother and the uncle continue to slip through the cracks of our justice system. Now this IS justice denied. What will happen next is anyone’s guess. I must admit that last week when I heard the mother and the uncle were going to be extradited to India I did not jump for joy because in the back of my mind I had a feeling it would never happen. I guess it is because I don’t have much faith in our Canadian justice system.

    What I am trying to say is that 1,000’s of families have been torn apart by murder. It’s rips the heart and soul from the inside out and unless we have walked in their shoes we cannot begin to feel their pain and who are we to judge their behavior through their years of waiting for answers. I pray that these families and all the others out there who have lost a loved one to murder see the justice they so rightfully deserve. It is just so wrong when the living must pay the price while the killers roam the countryside’s of this country. JUSTICE DENIED, JUSTICE DELAYED, and a justice system in need of repair.

    • In Lindsay’s case, it is the lack of DNA evidence at the crime scene that has dragged this case on. I’m sure the investigators are just as frustrated. Millions of dollars have been spent on this case. Lack of arrests in this particular case does not mean justice has been denied or delayed. Each murder case is unique. Some cases have an abundance of DNA/forensic evidence and are more easily solved.

      Who is judging the victim’s behaviour?

  52. I hate it when people complain about a certain word in a post as being unprofessional and immature when in fact they should be more worried about their own stupid, irresponsible comments. It really grinds my gears in general.

    It seems some armchair detectives believe they are running the investigation. You actually have one armchair detective requesting a DNA report of the crime scene from another armchair detective who she suspects is Jason, Ryan or Shirley. As if, any of the 100’s of suspects named would even have a copy of the DNA report of the crime scene. How does that even make sense? I am 100% serious, where are these people coming from? You seriously can’t make this stuff up.

  53. In this CRIMESTOPPERS re-enactment the woman is seen wearing a swirl pattern dress and the man is wearing a long dark coat. This description supports what one witness described seeing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ln6S3sjknc.

    A male witness to seeing Lindsay greet the couple in the driveway at the Desousa home.
    A male on his way home from work stops to speak to Jeff Buziak in his vehicle on Torquay. He describes what he saw as a male in a long coat and the woman in a swirl pattern dress. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me2BI3ZeXro.

    CRIME WATCH DAILY
    Apparently Jason witnessed a male and female starting to exit the front door, then turn around and go back in. The male shown is not wearing a long dark coat, but rather a short light jacket. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Egrahh6RuNo.

    What is the explanation for this discrepancy? Is it possible the killer removed his long dark coat inside the house, then the woman put it on. Was she seen leaving that house in a long dark coat?

    • The discrepancy is, one is a TV show while the other is a CRIMESTOPPERS re-enactment. I don’t see the actors in the CWD show wearing coats period. The male is wearing a buttoned shirt. The female actor is wearing a long sleeveless dress, not a short, swirl patterned dress.

      The guy that was talking to Jeff describes seeing “three people standing there, one in a long coat”. That’s all he said. It’s also possible the news report reported incorrectly.

      • As the Crime Stoppers re-enactment depicts a male in a long coat I am suggesting the guy Jeff was talking to was talking about the male at the house, not the 2 women. The article below talks about the male wearing a light to medium-brown jacket and was well dressed. A jacket is NOT a long coat. That’s why I suggested that the male went into the house with a long coat and exited the house without it on. The woman may have been wearing the coat. I realize that it is just a TV show but, so as not to confuse the viewers, perhaps having the couple dressed similar to what they were wearing in the Crime Stoppers video would make more sense to the average person watching. Just my opinion.

        Investigators released a sketch of a woman described as being 35 to 40 years old — with short blonde hair. The man is described as Caucasian, around six feet tall, with a medium build and dark hair. He was wearing a light to medium-brown jacket and was well dressed.

        http://bc.ctvnews.ca/young-realtor-s-murder-remains-unsolved-1.480107

        • In my opinion, it’s irrelevant what the couple were wearing. No one is going to ID them based on the clothes they were wearing anyway. His coat could have been hot pink and it wouldn’t make a difference. Crimestoppers video describes the color of the dress as being “red, black, and white” yet the dress in the video is “pink, white, and black.” Obviously, there are inaccuracies in the Crimestoppers video. Is that the same car Lindsay was driving that is in the video? Was the female actor portraying Lindsay wearing the identical clothes Lindsay had on that day? The actress hairstyle is nothing like Lindsay’s.

          It’s been nine years and people are still arguing about what color the dress was and if the coat was long or short. If the female wore a wig or not. It was suggested many, many, years ago that maybe the man exited the house without his coat on but how is that going to advance the case now? Jason and Cohen saw the man exit the house. I’m sure they were able to tell the police if the guy was wearing a long or short coat.

          Keep in mind it’s the CTV REPORTER who is stating what the man was wearing. A reporter once said Lindsay was stabbed over 40 times and that turned out to be inaccurate reporting.

  54. Would the Island crime unit have cracked the Buziak case?

    The Vancouver Island Integrated Major Crime Unit, made up of 18 officers from RCMP detachments and municipal forces, was formed in 2007 to investigate serious cases such as murders. The unit, which can provide experienced officers and specialized resources to communities, is seen as a way for various police departments to co-operate on major cases.

    But the Saanich police department, which also provides major crime services to Oak Bay on contract, opted out. Police Chief Mike Chadwick, deputy chief at the time, said the department’s homicide detectives solve most of their cases on their own and in a cost-effective way.

    Less than a year later, on Feb. 2, 2008, one of the region’s highest-profile murders occurred in Saanich — 24-year-old real estate agent Lindsay Buziak was stabbed to death in a vacant home in Gordon Head. After two years without an arrest, it raises the question: Should Saanich have joined?

    According to former Saanich police chief Derek Egan, the answer is still no. In a July 2009 interview, he said he didn’t regret not joining the unit and didn’t think the choice had anything to do with why Buziak’s murder is yet unsolved.

    Saanich police have only two unsolved homicides in the last 25 years, said Price. Last year, when the RCMP and Victoria police joined forces to form a Vancouver Island homicide squad, Saanich opted out of the deal because it said it was happy with its own homicide clearance rate.

    Saanich police have said Buziak was the target of the killing, and they don’t believe the wider community is at risk.

    That kind of assurance keeps the public from fearing crime in the absence of an arrest, said Simon Fraser University criminologist Neil Boyd.

    “I’d be surprised if there’s any lack of confidence in police about an ongoing unsolved homicide,” said Boyd. “About ten per cent of all homicides are unsolved, and that’s not a negative reflection on police … that’s a reflection of the reality in some small number of cases.”

    Buziak’s father, Jeff, told the Times Colonist in March he was frustrated someone was not behind bars. But he added he wasn’t frustrated with police because he felt they were taking the amount of time they needed to close the case without mistakes.

    Meanwhile, police dismiss suggestions the public needs more information.

    “When you don’t have a smoking gun, the investigation is complex, and I believe that the majority of your readers know that,” said Price. “We’re not getting the same public pressure we are getting from the media.

    “I think the public has a great deal of confidence in our ability to do our job.”

  55. Truth and Facts:

    Sgt. Horsley: “The VAST majority of the information put out in the public domain is simply not true.”

    Sgt. Horsley: “When they went upstairs, there’s a master bedroom and an en-suite bathroom,” said Sgt. Horsley. “We know that when Lindsay turned to show the en-suite bathroom she was then attacked from the rear. There’s no defensive wounds whatsoever. We don’t believe she had any pre-indication that something was amiss.”

    Sgt. Horsley: “Some of the things that people take as the gospel are certainly incorrect. You know the poor victim there, injuries to the victim were NEVER disclosed, autopsy report NEVER been disclosed, although we have admitted this was a horrific attack we have never indicated any type of injury or nature of injuries.

    Sgt. Horsley: “She told Jason ‘They’re here,'” said Horsley. “But at no time did she say anything that would be cause for warning — ‘I’m worried,’ ‘I’m scared,’ ‘These people creep me out.'”

    Sgt. Horsley: “The killers were actually about to walk out the front door and leave, and he turned into the cul-de-sac and interrupted them leaving,” said Sgt. Horsley. “If he had been five seconds later he would have driven right into the suspects walking out here into the driveway.”

    Instead, he tells police the couple turned around and closed the door.

    “And his assumption is these are the clients and the showing is just starting as the door closes,” said Horsley. “He then parks outside because he is waiting for the showing to end.

    “Mr. Zailo and his friend were under intense police scrutiny. However, Mr. Zailo was cooperative with police,” said Sgt. Horsley. “He also partook in a polygraph exam, and he passed.

    Police say the evidence supports Jason Zailo’s version of events.

    Sgt. Horsley: “We think we may have even found the exact brand of dress,” said Horsley. “It wasn’t a designer high-end name brand, unfortunately, it was something that could commonly be bought in the department store. So, unfortunately, the dress lead didn’t pan out for us.”

    Sgt. Horsley: “Really, what it’s become is a modern-day witch hunt, and it’s just an internet witch hunt,” said Sgt. Horsley. “So it’s an ongoing issue and whether it affects the potential trial down the road, I don’t know. I’ve had those discussions with Mr. Buziak because it is potential that it could impact our successful prosecution.”

    • There are a multitude of reasons why potentially prosecutable homicides go unsolved in this country. A lack of DNA and forensic evidence is one, but most importantly it is a society that prefers to not get involved. Witnesses unwilling to co-operate with investigators for fear of being implicated in a crime themselves or because they don’t trust law enforcement. Witnesses who have been intimidated and are too afraid to come forward to tell what they know. Threatened/intimidated by the killers, or perhaps scared into silence by a friend or family member who has begged them not to get involved. Everyone has a mind of their own, so if they decide to withhold key evidence that is on them, not the people that they were intimidated by.

      The Big One; A lack of willingness to get involved, to report wrongdoing, to co-operate with authorities, to want to make their communities safer. People are reluctant to assist, part of a no snitch culture that authorities say can make solving a killing impossible. Police investigate and find all the facts. The people solve crimes by stepping forward and doing the right thing. It is witnesses who solve crimes and those willing to testify are the heroes. Cowards choose to remain silent and this is where the problem lies.

      Detectives will try to explain to victims’ families that they won’t be calling every day or every week to update them about what’s happening with their loved one’s case. In most cases, that’s simply because there’s nothing new to say.

      When new information surfaces that might help a case, detectives don’t share that information in great detail with victims families to avoid jeopardizing the investigation.

      Other hurdles to conviction can involve the physical evidence itself.

      Obtaining physical evidence often is much easier in domestic cases or homicides where the victim and the perpetrator had close contact. Domestic violence homicides, are usually easier for police to solve.

      In many gang-related homicides, physical evidence is limited. In those instances, investigators, instead, often must rely heavily on witnesses, who often can’t be found or are reluctant to testify.

      Stop the blame game! There are people out there who have the answers to solve this murder, but they choose not to come forward — not giving one thought to the suffering family waiting desperately for answers. Stop blaming the police for things that are beyond their control. Put the blame where it rightfully belongs.

      • Here is an example of a murder case that went unsolved for NINE YEARS because very little evidence was left at the scene. Police had their suspect but nothing to prove it. They needed someone to talk. I suspect the same thing is happening in the Lindsay Buziak case. The police know who the conspirators are but have no evidence. This requires someone to come forward with knowledge of the crime. It’s not too complicated of a process to understand. If there is no physical evidence or other solid evidence to identify the killers then how else can the killers be identified? Same goes for the conspirators.

        In the case below, someone came forward after NINE YEARS and TALKED. BAM, case solved.

        Passage of time sometimes helps a cold case

        Late one Sunday night in the fall of 1989, an intruder knocked on the sliding glass door of Diane Corkum’s Shaughnessy basement suite and killed the 35-year-old Vancouver mother with a gunshot to the chest.

        Investigators suspected Corkum’s custody battle with her estranged partner, and father of one of her three children, may have led to her death. But very little evidence was left at the scene and the trail ran cold after police were stonewalled by the partner’s family and friends.

        Some nine years after the murder, Corkum’s former partner had had a falling out with his older brother over a property dispute and now wanted to talk. He reached out to a newly formed provincial Unsolved Homicide Unit and told investigators that his brother Allan Arthur Dunbar had confessed to the crime a couple years after Corkum’s murder.

        Dunbar told his brother that he had done him a favour by eliminating his estranged wife, whom Dunbar had hated for trying to take his nephew away from the family, according to court documents.

        The new evidence helped the Crown get a first-degree murder conviction and a sentence of 25 years to life in prison.
        http://vancouversun.com/news/staff-blogs/part-3-of-our-unsolved-murder-series

        “Based on that information, it is evident that the Crown’s case against Mr. Dunbar was entirely circumstantial. The strongest evidence against Mr. Dunbar appears to have been the evidence of his brother, Ronald Dunbar, and his half-sister, Patricia White. They testified that Mr. Dunbar had admitted to them, approximately two years after the killing, that he was the one who had killed Ms. Corkum. Ms. White’s daughter also testified about a conversation between her and the appellant from which the jury could infer that the appellant was involved in Ms. Corkum’s killing. Two police officers who spoke with the appellant shortly after the murder also testified that the appellant was aware that Ms. Corkum had been shot, although they HAD NOT PROVIDED HIM WITH THAT INFORMATION and the appellant said that he had not heard about the murder from any other source.”

        • As most people know, the police ask for public assistance all the time when they have unsolved murder cases sitting on their desk. Especially cases that lack the evidence that can ID the offenders. Let’s hope someone comes forward with what they know because that’s the only way Lindsay’s case is going to get solved.

          Most unsolved cases have plenty of baffling details as well as odd events that might or might not be related. It also serves as a reminder that Greater Victoria has its share of unsolved murders as well, and some of these cases have been cold for decades.

          A more recent murder is that of Lindsay Buziak, the real estate agent who was stabbed to death while showing a home in Saanich in 2008.

          The Buziak case has become one of the most notorious unsolved murders in the capital region. Again, somebody out there knows something. Let’s hope they come forward eventually.
          http://www.timescolonist.com/entertainment/books/cold-case-collection-probes-history-of-b-c-mysteries-1.2191341

  56. The article below was posted on the http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?topic=2736.15SP website in 2010. The Saanich Police URL that was included with the article is no longer working.

    It has been quoted by various individuals that Lindsay sent a TEXT to Jason at 5:30 pm but Lindsay actually made a PHONE CALL to Jason. There were witnesses at SHC who were near Jason when he received the call from Lindsay. The article below also mentions that when Lindsay called Jason, Jason agreed to meet Lindsay at the house. This confirms Jason was never originally supposed to be with Lindsay at the 5:30 showing. There was also a co-worker of both Lindsay and Jason’s who came forward and confirmed Jason was supposed to meet Lindsay after the showing.

    Reward and Tip Line

    Lindsay Elizabeth Buziak was murdered at 6pm on February 2nd, 2008. She was showing a house at 1702 De Sousa Place, to a man and woman interested in purchasing it. This was a rouse though. Lindsay was intentionally targeted, she was intentionally lured to the home, and she was intentionally killed.

    After exhaustively investigating this crime for the past two years, this is what we know.

    Lindsay was working as a real estate agent when she got a call from a woman wishing to see a home that was for sale on De Sousa Place. Arrangements to view the home were made and Lindsay met a man and a woman just before 6pm on February 2nd, 2008.

    Just before meeting these potential clients, Lindsay made a phone call to her boyfriend Jason Zailo, who agreed to meet her at the house.

    After the call with Lindsay, Jason and a friend went to De Sousa Place to ensure the viewing went well. He made a phone call to Lindsay just before arriving, which she did not answer.

    When they got to the home, they found the front door locked but could see shoes inside in the foyer. No one came to the door. Jason called 9-1-1 requesting police check Lindsay’s welfare but prior to police arriving at the home, Jason and his friend had entered the home and found Lindsay’s body in an upstairs bedroom.

    Jason and his friend have been ruled out as suspects.

    Several other people have been considered persons of interest in the file but as of this time, none are deemed to be suspects.

    Officers have investigated leads that have taken them to the Lower Mainland, Calgary and Washington State.

    We do know that in late 2007 a cell phone was purchased in the Vancouver area and used exclusively for this crime. This phone was activated in the Vancouver area in January 2008.

    We know that a woman with an accent made contact with Lindsay using this crime phone. This is the woman who is believed to be involved in Lindsay’s murder.

    We know that the phone travelled from the Vancouver area to Greater Victoria within 24 hours of Lindsay’s murder.

    We know the phone was registered to a “Paulo Rodriquez”. We believe this name to be fictitious. With this subscriber name, was an associated address in the Vancouver area. We have concluded that this address, which does exist, was used as a diversion and has no direct association with any suspects in this crime.

    A year ago we held a media conference which focussed on two people, a man and a woman, who we believe murdered Lindsay. They are still our primary suspects.

    The man is described as:

    * Caucasian
    * About 6′ tall
    * With a Medium build
    * Dark, possibly brown hair
    * Wearing a light to medium brown jacket
    * Overall he was well dressed

    The woman is described as:

    * Caucasian
    * 35 to 40 years old
    * With short blonde hair
    * Wearing a distinctive white, black and red/pink dress

    Currently, we have a core team of four investigators working this file but over these two years, we have employed 73 different officers, tasked with a multitude of responsibilities to help solve this crime.

    We have followed up on over 800 investigative leads, 130 of them in the last year. On December 2nd, 2009, a re-enactment, produced in conjunction with Crimestoppers and Chek TV, first aired. Since then we have received eight additional tips.

    Each tip has been thoroughly investigated and documented.

    We have interviewed hundreds of people and identified a number of people of interest. We believe that one of these people has the information we need to solve this, but for whatever reason, be it fear, loyalty, or criminal intention, they are not talking.

    We do not have a suspect identified, nor have we made an arrest.

    To ensure that we are conducting the best investigation possible, we have completed both an internal audit of the file, and an external review by an outside agency, namely the Office of Investigative Standards and Practices. The results of both found that we are meeting all the necessary standards for a major case management file.

    Lindsay’s family, along with the Greater Victoria Real Estate Board and the Canadian Real Estate Association, is now offering a reward of $100,000 for information that leads to the arrest and conviction of those responsible. We are confident that someone out there has the key piece of information needed to solve this crime. It is hoped that this reward will provide the motivation necessary to relieve the burden that Lindsay’s murder is weighing on them.

    Anyone, with any information, is asked to call the Saanich Police at 250-475-4356 or Greater Victoria Crimestoppers at 1-800-222-8477. Lindsay did not have a high-risk lifestyle, she was not a criminal, and she was not inviting danger towards herself. She was a young woman just starting out in life and she is deeply missed by her family and friends. Help us solve this most treacherous of crimes.

    http://www.saanichpolice.ca/crimewatch/media/08_2682Conference2010.html

    • In 2010 the police said they had a number of people of interest. They said one of those people had the information they needed to solve the case, but for whatever reason, be it fear, LOYALTY, or criminal intention, they were not talking.

      In my opinion, they are probably describing Rianne. She has refused to take a polygraph and refused to cooperate. She is LOYAL to that crew and always has been. She claimed she would do anything to help Lindsay’s case but all she has done is remain loyal to Lindsay’s killer’s!!!!

      That is just my personal feeling about Rianne.

  57. Lindsay’s sister said on Crime Watch Daily that she adored Jason and that Lindsay & Jason were very happy together. She came across as sincere. If Lindsay was thinking of leaving Jason maybe he didn’t have a clue, then she changed her mind and there was no need for him to ever know. No one has ever stood up and said that Jason was violent or abusive towards Lindsay because he wasn’t.

    A girl is murdered, the first suspect is always the boyfriend, then the ex-boyfriend, jealous friend or co-worker. In Lindsay’s case someone in this group has to be involved. I’ve read extensively and come to this conclusion. Jason is not involved in the conspiracy to murder Lindsay, but he knows who is. The ex-boyfriend Matt isn’t involved in Lindsay’s murder but he knows who is. His guilt is eating away at him but he’s sworn to that code of silence for the safety of himself and his family. Vid and Lindsay’s girlfriend who worked in her office were a couple. Vid and Lindsay hated each other and everyone knew it. How could Rianne be friends with Lindsay knowing she hated her boyfriend? Serious resentment boiling inside? Was Lindsay making every effort to get Rianne to break away from Vid knowing he was connected to the drug cartel and would Vid not be enraged knowing this? There is enough evidence to show that Vid is involved in Lindsay’s murder but obviously not enough to arrest him.

    The cops have said many times that they believe the killers are not local but most likely hired from out of the country. This made sense until I read that Vid had threatened Jason and demanded to know what he saw that night at the house. If Vid wasn’t involved he wouldn’t be confronting Jason in the first place. More important though, if the killers were not local why would Vid even care what or who Jason saw that night. If this threat did take place this tells me that the killers may have been local and that Vid and the others were concerned that Jason might have recognized the couple. I suppose it’s possible the man would be unknown to Jason but the woman might have been. Then again we are told that Lindsay did not know the couple she was greeting that evening. I don’t believe Lindsay was a scapegoat. Someone wanted Lindsay out of the way, and what better way to do it then point the finger at her as the snitch. Whoever called the hit took the word of someone in that group. Why point the finger at Lindsay when you know she wasn’t the snitch? Jealousy makes a strong motive for murder.

    • As I stated in one of my previous posts, I don’t believe Lindsay even told Jason she was contemplating leaving him. That would explain Jason’s answer on Dateline when he was asked if there was any truth to the rumor that Lindsay was going to leave him. I think Jason answered honestly because Lindsay never told him or broke up with him. It’s not uncommon for men and women to discuss personal issues with friends to get advice. Lindsay’s friends said Lindsay decided to stay with Jason in the end.

      If you believe both Jason and Matt know who murdered Lindsay are you saying they went to the police with their suspicions or are you saying they are obstructing justice by withholding this information? Both Matt and Jason partook in a polygraph and from my understanding Jason passed. If you had knowledge of who murdered your girlfriend you would not pass a polygraph and be successful in the interviews. I have not heard the results of Matt’s polygraph but if he knew who murdered Lindsay there would be negative indicators on the polygraph exam and interviews he engaged in. I’ve heard many rumours that certain people fear for their lives and that is the reason they did not come forward. Sorry, but I don’t buy into that. First off, if you feared for your life you would not be wandering around out in public right after Lindsay was murdered. Also, CrimeStoppers offers individuals to share information anonymously. Hundreds of people came forward and were interviewed by police. The suspects would have no idea who and what was said to the police. Weren’t the suspects going around yanking people out of their beds demanding to know who snitched on them? Obviously, they had no clue who snitched otherwise they would not have been doing that. Also, if someone pointed their finger at Lindsay as being the snitch why didn’t they go after Lindsay BEFORE the others? Sounds like they went after their own people who were involved in the drug operation. When they didn’t yield any answers they targeted Lindsay. Most likely because Lindsay was in Calgary 6 weeks prior and likely because Rianne fed her boyfriend Vid some info about Lindsay that was not true.

      Lindsay was murdered 12 days after Erickson was busted. Lindsay was murdered AFTER the crew had already yanked people out of their beds demanding to know who they spoke to. The only two people who were arrested at that time was Erickson and Graham. So, it’s easy to determine who was conducting the witch hunt and demanding to know who spoke to who. At this point in time, Lindsay had not yet been targeted as being the snitch.

      From my observations, Matt was not afraid of Vid or the Del alcazar’s. It was Matt who ordered Vid to let Jason go during the meeting shortly after Lindsay’s murder. If Vid was the boss and Matt feared Vid as you allude to, Vid would not be taking orders from Matt. Also, people who are involved in organized crime do not normally associate with law abiding citizens on a regular basis.

      I don’t think people are murdered just because someone hated their boyfriend. People involved in organized crime don’t go around talking about their business and how they operate either. How would Lindsay know the inner workings of the Del alcazar drug operation? Lindsay was not involved in the criminal element. Why would people in organized crime trust Lindsay with their business? Since her friend Rianne was involved in a relationship with vid Rianne would know the inner workings of the drug business. Remember, criminals associate with people they can trust and who they know are loyal to them. Rianne was loyal to VID. Rianne was Vid’s sister’s best friend and Rianne had been in relationships with other drug traffickers. She had the rep as being a “gangster girl”. Rianne knew what Vid did for a living just like Jefferson Del Alcazar’s girlfriend knows what he does for a living.

      As stated in a previous post, Vid wanted to know what Jason and C. saw because Vid was involved and he was told by the killer’s that Jason and C. saw them attempting to leave. Otherwise, why point a gun at Jason and demand to know what he saw? Same reason C was cornered and asked what he knew/saw. Only someone who was involved in the actual crime would engage in that sort of behaviour. Jason and other’s have the ability to ID people through photographs if the SP had particular suspects in mind. Vid would be concerned no matter where the killers were from. Why do you think SP has been focused on these characters? They know about the gun incident. I bet they were surveilling some of these characters at the time of the incident. People obviously informed the SP of these incidents and if you were not involved in the crime you would not be concerned about what the witnesses saw.

      Why do you feel the man was unknown to Jason but the woman may have been known to Jason? If that was the case, why have the police not arrested the woman?

      If someone pointed the finger at Lindsay as being the snitch knowing she was not, that makes her the “scapegoat”. A scapegoat is a person who is blamed for something others did. The police know who the real snitch was. It’s also possible Lindsay overheard something do to with the Del business through her association with Rianne. There is a real strong motive here as the Del crew lost millions and millions of dollars in revenue. I have not seen a better motive yet. The other motives I’ve read about are baseless with no evidence.

      • My bad, poor choice of words on my part. Of course Lindsay was someone’s scapegoat. Current boyfriend, old boyfriend or girlfriend Rianne who worked in Lindsay’s office. If the current boyfriend gave her up he would have done it to save himself. It would make him a coward but not a player in the conspiracy to murder Lindsay. He may have been late arriving at the house that night fearing for his own safety so just waited around not sure what was going on. Old boyfriend whom she still loved? If he had money invested in that drug shipment like Vid & the Delalcazars and was told that Lindsay was the snitch that would be motive to want her dead. My 1st choice is Vid’s girlfriend Rianne. She gave Lindsay up to save herself, then helped the others plan Lindsay’s murder. Her uncooperative behavior over the past 10 years supports her direct involvement in the crime. Jealousy, money, pick your poison… I think her boyfriend (partially) shared what he knew with the cops. Rianne lied to the cops and the ex-boyfriend … who really knows.

        • I have read a lot about this case and so many twists and turns my head is spinning.

          Current boyfriend theory: If he arrived late fearing for his own safety he would not have run into the house. Since he passed all interviews and the polygraph I doubt he had anything to hide. If he gave her up for whatever reason that makes him involved which means he would have failed poly and interviews.

          Ex boyfriend: He too partook in a polygraph so if he was involved he would have failed the test. I’m iffy on this guy.

          Rianne: How was she saving herself by giving up Lindsay? These people are all about loyalty that is why no one has talked. Rianne is my number one pick based on what I know about her.

  58. Well it looks like the Crown finally approved the charges against Erickson Delalcazar. Six separate incidents where he assaulted his ex-girlfriend. I pray the judge throws the book at him on October 3rd and sends a clear message. Domestic violence and beating woman is NOT acceptable.

    20014-1-K DELALCAZAR, ERICKSON Lopez 1 Western Communities Provincial Court
    31-Aug-2017 09:00 AM 002 FA Offences – Langford

    Document Count Offence Date Statute Nature Accused City Of Offence
    20014-1-K 1 15-Feb-2016 CCC – 266 Assault Commit DELALCAZAR, ERICKSON Lopez
    20014-1-K 2 20-May-2016 CCC – 266 Assault Commit DELALCAZAR, ERICKSON Lopez
    20014-1-K 3 22-May-2016 CCC – 266 Assault Commit DELALCAZAR, ERICKSON Lopez
    20014-1-K 4 03-Jun-2016 CCC – 266 Assault Commit DELALCAZAR, ERICKSON Lopez
    20014-1-K 5 01-Jul-2016 CCC – 266 Assault Commit DELALCAZAR, ERICKSON Lopez
    20014-1-K 6 17-Dec-2016 CCC – 266 Assault Commit DELALCAZAR, ERICKSON Lopez

    • Erickson is a very DANGEROUS man. Imagine, SIX TIMES he assaulted her. Can you imagine the other times that went unreported? Erickson has a prior conviction for domestic violence dating back to 1999.

      S. should be very proud of herself for finally finding the courage and strength to leave him. Erickson, thinks he can get away with anything. What is really frightening is how some of the WOMEN who are in relationships with the other Delalcazar brother’s ganged up on poor S. after she was assaulted on July 1, 2016.

      The Del brother’s typically get into relationships with MUCH YOUNGER girls. Reason being, they are easier to keep in line.

      I remember when one of S. friends came forward and spoke of the July 1, 2016, assault. Here is what she had to say.

      “The sad reality of this situation with S. is that people are defending Erickson and saying he would never hurt her. I didn’t think so either when I first met Erickson. People calling S. crazy and saying she made up her black eyes. Believe me, these are not made up, I’ve heard many stories of Erickson beating S. and have had friends witness it first hand, he has even pulled a knife on her. I was baffled that people would defend Erickson after his history that is well known and all over the internet. She is going to end up dead if she does not leave him!!!”

      I still believe Erickson is involved in Lindsay’s murder. Erickson had the MOTIVE, OPPORTUNITY, and the MEANS to conspire with others to murder Lindsay.

      Unfortunately, Lindsay had no idea just how DANGEROUS Erickson was but Lindsay’s friend Rianne did!!!

      “Some domestic violence is life-threatening. All domestic violence is dangerous, but some abusers ARE MORE LIKELY TO KILL than others and some are more likely to kill at specific times. The likelihood of homicide is greater when the following factors are present:”

      Threats of homicide or suicide: The abuser may threaten to kill himself, the victim, the children, relatives, friends, or someone else;

      Weapons: The abuser possesses weapons, and has threatened to use them in the past against the victim, the children, or himself.

      “Ownership” of the victim: The abuser says things like “If I can’t have you no one can” or “I would rather see you dead than have you divorce me”. The abuser believes he is absolutely entitled to the obedience and loyalty of the victim;

      Centrality of victim to the abuser: The abuser idolizes the victim, depending heavily on him or her to organize and sustain the abuser’s life, or the abuser isolates the victim from outside supports;

      Separation violence: The abuser believes he is about to lose the victim;

      Repeated calls to law enforcement: A history of violence is indicated by repeated police involvement;

      Escalation of risk-taking: The abuser has begun to act without regard to legal or social consequences that previously constrained his violence;

      • Close friend of Erickson Delalcazar, Vid Acevedo, is another dangerous violent man. He was charged but never convicted of the charges below. Why? Because the Crown would not go forward with the charges as his ex-girlfriend refused to testify. This is what these men do. They put the fear of god into their woman to silence them.

        ILLICIT DRUGS SEIZED IN BUST NEAR LANGFORD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
        January 6, 2017
        Acevedo and Delalcazar were charged with possession for the purpose of trafficking. On MAY 4, 2017 the judge ordered a Stay of Proceedings.” (SOP) END

        Erickson Lopez Delalcazar convicted for his part in the January 2008 Calgary Drug Bust. He served his time, then came back to Victoria. Back to selling narcotics and beating women.

        http://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/illicit-drugs-seized-in-bust-near-langford-elementary-school-1.3233820

        11-Jul-2000 106633-2-C ACEVEDO, EDGAR Ovidio 2 MVA 24 1 Driving without driver’s licence G
        67367-1-K 1 23-Jun-2008 CCC – 264.1(1) Uttering threats Commit ACEVEDO, EDGAR Ovidio
        67367-1-K 2 23-Jul-2008 CCC – 264.1(1) Uttering threats Commit ACEVEDO, EDGAR Ovidio
        67367-1-K 3 23-Jul-2008 CCC – 264 Criminal Harassment Commit ACEVEDO, EDGAR Ovidio
        67367-2-KA 1 07-Sep-2008 CCC – 145(3) Breach of undertaking or recognizance Commit ACEVEDO, EDGAR Ovidio Parksville BC
        67367-2-KA 2 16-Sep-2008 CCC – 145(3) Breach of undertaking or recognizance Commit ACEVEDO, EDGAR Ovidio Parksville BC
        67367-2-KA 3 23-Sep-2008 CCC – 145(3) Breach of undertaking or recognizance Commit ACEVEDO, EDGAR Ovidio Parksville BC

  59. “What really set the alarm bells off was the front door of the home was LOCKED and in the real estate business, and Mr. Zailo is a realtor, he knew that is something that is simply not done and once he attempted entry and the door was locked that was the cause for the initial 911 call.”

    • It is not too hard to grasp why jason called 911. He said he did not see anyone around and the door was locked. Lindsay did not answer his calls. I would have called 911 too.

  60. Criminal Investigators

    Criminal investigation is an applied science that involves the study of facts, used to identify, locate and prove the guilt of an accused criminal. A complete criminal investigation can include searching, interviews, interrogations, evidence collection and preservation and various methods of investigation.

    Criminal investigators are professionals in the law enforcement team who try to solve crimes, prevent the occurrence of future crimes, and searching and detaining suspects. They require a bachelor’s degree in a field related to criminal investigation. The ideal majors include criminology, criminal justice, or psychology.

    One major difference between public and private investigator is the training that they have to go through before they qualify to do criminal investigations.

    Private Investigators

    A freelance detective who carries out investigations on behalf of private clients. Private investigators often work for lawyers in civil and criminal cases.There are differences between private investigators and public investigators. Police officers and government agents are public investigators. Private investigators do not have ready access to privileged government information about most of us nor do they always share investigative leads and similar intelligence with other investigators.

    A private investigator’s job status alone does not imbue her with an ability to carry firearms.

    Private investigators pay for their own equipment, some of which can get quite expensive (such as radios, computers, still/video cameras, automobiles, etc.). Public-sector investigators (police, etc.) do not pay from their pockets for such equipment.

    Armchair Detectives

    A wannabe investigator who does not personally visit a crime scene or interview witnesses; instead, he or she either reads the story of the crime in a newspaper or has it recounted by other people. A good armchair detective should never believe what someone tells them. They should investigate the rumors and try and determine if they are true or false before accusing innocent people of a crime. They should do as much research as possible and be very careful of developing “tunnel vision.” Armchair Detectives have no direct ties to the police or other investigative agency. They try to solve or help solve various crimes even though they have nothing to work with other than the internet. They do not get paid for their investigative services.

  61. BASIC PRINCIPALS OF CANADIAN LAW

    The criminal justice system is built on a few important principles. B.C. shares these basic principles with all common law criminal justice systems around the world.

    Presumption of Innocence – Every criminal case begins with the presumption that the accused person is innocent. It is up to Crown counsel, representing the community, to PROVE beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused committed the crime.

    Due Process – Due process is related to the presumption of innocence. It involves a thorough examination of the facts of each case – and recognition of the importance of protecting the legal rights of those charged with criminal offences.

    http://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/justice/criminal-justice/bcs-criminal-justice-system/understanding-criminal-justice/principles-and-sources-of-criminal-law/basic-principles

    Crown Independence and Responsibilities

    In Canada, a crime against one person is regarded as a crime against society. Crown counsel do not represent the police or victim. They represent the community as a whole.

    Crown counsel are independent officers of the court and are protected from outside influence by the Crown Counsel Act. The courts have described the role of Crown counsel in Canada as a quasi-judicial function and matter of public duty.

    The first duty of Crown counsel is to ensure the prosecution process is fair to all, evidence is presented thoroughly and accurately and the independence and integrity of the justice process is maintained. Their duty as professionals is to evaluate and present evidence to the court in a vigorous manner. They ensure justice is done in a fair, impartial, efficient and respectful manner.

    http://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/justice/criminal-justice/bcs-criminal-justice-system/understanding-criminal-justice/key-parts/crown-counsel

    Witnesses:

    Don’t talk about your testimony with ANYONE until you testify.

    The lawyers will start with some simple questions about you and try to determine what you know about the alleged crime. Make sure your answers are based on what you actually saw and heard, and not on what you think probably happened – it’s ok to say that you don’t know. Do not give opinions unless one of the lawyers asks you to.

  62. My question,

    There are three different times of death:
    1. The physiologic time of death, when the victim’s vital functions actually ceased.
    2. The estimated time of death, the time the medical examiner estimates that death occured.
    3. The legal time of death the time recorded on the death certificate.

    Normal body temperature is 98.6 degrees, and a woman’s body temperature is often slightly higher. After death the human body cools by about 1.5 degrees per hour for the 1st 12 hours.

    The approximate time of Lindsay Buziak’s murder was somewhere between 5:38-5:42 pm. The boyfriend Jason entered the home at approximately 6:15pm and found Lindsay’s body lying on the floor in the master bedroom. His comment on Dateline was, “I touched her skin and I knew she had passed away. The body had dropped in temperature by an approximate 1 degree. Would a 95.5 degree temperature have been enough for a person who touched her skin to know that she was “dead”

    • it’s not quite that straight forward. The 1.5-degree-per-hour factor varies, depending upon the environment surrounding the body, room temperature, body weight/size of the victim, clothing, and other factors. Excessive blood loss from being stabbed multiple times would drop the body temperature at a much faster rate. Therefore Lindsay’s body temperature for sure could have been a few degrees lower than the 1 degree temperature drop you suggest. The reality is, Jason is not the killer, he had an alibi and his finding the body must have been a gut-wrenching moment. His words on dateline may have been a poor choice of words but who knows what anyone of us might say when put on the spot like Jason was. He appeared on the show and that took courage. Many others chose not to appear.

  63. Infomation on a polygraph and why people are advised to lawyer up during a criminal investigation. (NOTE: Jason fully cooperated against the advice of counsel. Although he “passed” the polygraph he continued to fully cooperate with everything the police asked of him ) There are some who try and lead you to believe Jason only lawyered up because he was guilty of a crime but that is utter nonsense.

    In the course of our practice, it is common for individuals under investigation to ask whether they ought to participate in a police lie detector test. Although every situation is different, the answer to 99.9% of inquiries is “no, absolutely not.” From there, we provide clients with specific legal advice on how to properly respond to the police request so as not to harm their interests or expose themselves to unnecessary risk. Although there may be circumstances where it’s in the individual’s interest to participate, those occasions are extremely rare, unique, and nuanced.

    When a person is under investigation, it is CRITICAL for that person to obtain proper legal advice from a lawyer who specializes in criminal law immediately and before there is any agreement or refusal to participate in a polygraph examination. Failure to do so could have lasting, severe, and irreparable consequences that are explained further below. The importance of obtaining specific legal advice from a properly qualified lawyer at this stage cannot be stressed enough. If police have reached the stage of requesting a polygraph test, they are treating it seriously; any person requested to participate ought to as well.

    A “polygraph examination” is more commonly known as a “lie detector” test. Requests by police to participate in such examinations can come at ANY TIME. Request to participate are most frequent at the beginning of an investigation when police are trying to obtain evidence and develop a theory of the case. A criminal charge is not required for police to make such a request. For that matter, police are not required to even consider that person a “suspect”. However, it would be counterintuitive and rare that police would waste their time and expense on obtaining polygraphs from people they are not interested in. Put it this way, if police felt a person was telling the truth, why would they need a lie detector? As a matter of common sense, would you ask someone to participate in a lie detector test if you believed them?

    Therefore, when people are requested to participate in such examinations, they are almost always suspects or “persons of interest” – even if the police insist they are not. When police say a person is not a “suspect” it may be just another way of saying there is not enough evidence to consider them as one. However, once a person complete a polygraph test that may all change – indeed, that is probably the point. It is very common for police to lack the grounds to arrest someone until after someone has completed a polygraph examination, even in instances where a person “passes” the test or vehemently denies their guilt.

    If a person is innocent, there is no obligation to prove it to police.

    Often times, people who see themselves as innocent feel they should participate to quickly clear their name. It’s human nature to want people, and police, to believe they did not do anything wrong. This human desire towards exoneration does not serve the person/suspect well under police investigation.

    If one knows they are innocent, that should be enough for peace of mind. Trying to convince police to reverse their suspicions exposes oneself to considerable risk with little, to any benefit. As indicated below, even if a person “passes” a polygraph examination, that result isn’t admissible in court to prove innocence anyway. Further “passing” a lie detector test is not conclusive to police and the investigation will continue as they see fit – except now police have a statement that may become relevant to impeach credibility at a later date.

    If you’re guilty…well do we need to say more?

    In addition to the reasons set out in this paper, it should be obvious to any person who is guilty of a crime that it is not in their interest to participate in a lie detector test. This is the same whether a person is guilty to the full extent to which the police are alleging, or even if the person feels they are only partially guilty. A person seeking to set the record straight on their degrees of guilt is rarely favourable to their interests, and rarely changes the police view on how guilty that person is. Invariably, this type of approach just serves to dig a person deeper and deeper into legal problems and lies.

    A suspect is never obligated to give any statement to the police, even upon arrest. In almost all instances, lawyers will advise a person not to make a statement to police if they are under investigation for myriad reasons. Since a polygraph examination requires questions and answers, it too is a statement and the same principles against self-incrimination apply.

    People who seek to exonerate themselves through their exculpatory statements will invariably provide facts and omissions that may later serve to impeach their own credibility. This is because the more people talk the more likely it is for these facts and omissions will appear exaggerated, incorrect, misstated, or unreliable to police. Those inevitable shortcomings will then be exploited under cross-examination at trial. Even people who seek to tell nothing but the truth can look incredible under a skilled cross-examination. Offering any sort of statement provides the examiner the means to craft skillful impeachments and cross-reference every fact to hard evidence that may contradict a person’s version of events.

    Fortunately, under Canadian law, silence, or refusal to participate in a police investigation is not admissible to prove a person’s guilt. Silence is not evidence and it cannot be cross-examined upon – it’s as simple as that.

    Polygraphs are limited in their reliability:

    The reliability of polygraph testing is of considerable debate and controversy that is far too in depth to explore in this short article. Suffice to say that the science is not perfect (or we would not have a need for courts and trials). The inherent unreliability in this sort of testing simply means that passing means very little to police and is not in any way determinative in police believing in a person’s innocence. On the other hand, FAILURE often adds to suspicions and conclusions of guilt of the investigators.

    Regardless of their admissibility, polygraphs still serve as very useful investigative tool for police. When a suspect is confronted with failed polygraph results, they often offer a confession.

    https://robichaudlaw.ca/police-lie-detector-suspect-participate/

    • If Rianne truly believed the Zailo’s were responsible for Lindsay’s murder she would have submitted to a polygraph test when she was requested to do so. I guess she knew she would FAIL IT! She told anyone who would listen to her BS it was the Zailo’s.

    • If Matt MacDuff passed the polygraph he would have demanded that the Saanich Police publically clear him just like they did the Zailo’s. He would have been screaming his innocence all over the streets of Victoria. The fact that he wasn’t publically cleared and has remained silent on this topic all these years says it all. He failed – and that makes him a possible suspect.

      • There was no need for Matt to make any public demands to clear his name because no one was pointing the finger at him calling him a murderer or conspirator like they were the Zailo’s. Quite the contrary.

        I don’t know either way if he passed or failed. Only the police know.

  64. A criminal mastermind

    She’ll lie, cheat, and manipulate to get whatever it is she wants, and she’ll do all of this with a coldness of heart.

    She is charming. She knows how to talk, how to lie. She can make friends at the drop of a hat, and seem like the sweetest person in the world. She will put a bullet in your head just as soon as she SHAKES YOUR HAND.

    She probably doesn’t appear in public too often or does all of her own dirty work. She is extremely careful and never makes mistakes. Effectively emotionless. If you outlive your worth, or make a mistake, or BETRAY her trust in the SLIGHTEST, you are DEAD. And not just dead. Wiped away. Gone. Off the face of the planet, because not only are you dead, your entire family is dead, as is anyone who knew you well. Your records have been wiped. You were never there. This woman is ruthless, efficient, and cares not at all.

    It isn’t that female criminals don’t exist….it is just that they have a different set of morals than men. The women are often more RUTHLESS and unpredictable. Women have a cold way about them that is balanced by their ability to CRY themselves out of just about ANY situation. Of course, this tactic does not often work on other women….they use it against men to freak them out and make them feel cold.

    Eventually, she will even SEE YOU PUT AWAY FOR YOUR CRIMES, happy to LET YOU ROT behind bars.

  65. There is enough evidence to support that Lindsay’s murder may be a result of the huge financial loss certain people took in that 2008 Calgary drug bust. There is denial by some who seem to try and deflect anything that shines light on the fact that she was in contact with drug dealers when she clearly was. That’s not helping the situation. Those who conspired to murder Lindsay will certainly spend a lot of years doing time. But what about the person that gave Lindsay up? Cowardly snitches will often lie and incriminate an innocent person just to take the heat off themselves. Is this person guilty of a crime? In my mind they are just as responsible for Lindsay’s murder as the actual conspirators, but does the law look at it that way, I don’t know. The only way the conspirators would think Lindsay was the rat, is if someone told them she was. That person may have been fearing for their own life, and did the cowardly thing putting the blame on Lindsay.

    Lindsay confided what she knew to someone, I’m thinking a close girlfriend or her boyfriend. If she told her boyfriend that may be why the cops were all over the Calgary Drug bust from day one right after her murder. I wonder too, if the drug dealers suspected Lindsay of ratting them out, would they have confronted her boyfriend with what they thought. They were going crazy after the bust trying to get answers so it is possible. Erickson had already been arrested and charged so the secret drug bust and his involvement was out there. Then there’s Lindsay’s girlfriend who worked in her office and dated Vid. If they suspected her would she have put the blame on Lindsay? Someone out there knows something and is staying silent. That is a coward.

    When a citizen reports a crime that is about to take place, or has already taken place this does not constitute snitching, it’s called being civically responsible and doing the right thing. It takes guts to snitch and a coward not to. It takes great courage to stand against the criminal garbage that plagues our society and not many have the stomach for it.

    Was this murder personal? I’m just not so sure it was anymore.

  66. I stumbled upon some information that was made by a retired police officer in 2013. The officer was not related to Lindsay’s case but was simply offering a framework for murder investigations in general. There was a lot of speculation about the nature of Lindsay’s wounds, the CVSA machine, corruption, etc. I thought I would share the retired officer’s statements. It might clear up a few things.

    “FACT – The Saanich Police does NOT use the CVSA for criminal investigations. If the Zailos were tested as stated by SPD, it was on a polygraph.”

    “FACT – The RCMP and the Office of Investigational Standards(RCMP) reviewed the Saanich file and found it to be sound and based on good investigative principals. The case went through another recent peer review, again to have another opinion.”

    “FACT – The RCMP, Victoria Police, IHIT, or anyone else does NOT want to to take this case. They have their own unsolved homicides to worry about.”

    “If there was evidence to support criminal charges, they would be before the courts. The model for ALL Canadian police agencies is the same. Major Case Management consists of a three person team who oversee a large case. This is, in turn, managed higher up by administrators. Even if there was a corrupt cop, they would NOT be able to STEER or MISGUIDE a case through this process. There are simply too many checks and balances.”

    “False info – Lindsay had a large wound on her neck. OK, so where did this tidbit of info come from. SP have NEVER released any details from the Post Mortem(and so they shouldn’t) yet we are now privy to autopsy information???”

    “Jeff clearly told the group that he did NOT EXAMINE or look at Lindsays injuries at the hospital or when he viewed her body. As an investigator, I would take steps to ensure that he was not able to look at the injuries. One, to PROTECT the investigation and Two, to protect a grieving Father.”

    “The SP did say that REPORTS of injuries were GREATLY EXAGGERATED by CHEK 6 news. The total number and nature of wounds are a VERY closely guarded SECRET.”

    “So where did this internet “truth” come from??? I would urge you to consider this information.”

    “Keeping “holdback” info on a murder is a tough thing.”

    “Besides police we have witnesses, ambulance, fire fighters, body removal, etc, etc Yes, even someone at the funeral home could release info that you want kept quiet.”

    “In this CASE, I believe SP kept a TIGHT LID on the information. Their comments regarding Dateline were not about any INJURIES. Dateline were NOT given this info either. Safe to say that Lindsay was stabbed to death and in this respect, Dateline was not incorrect. Other than that, Dateline knows no more than you do.”

    “We are trapped in this cyber world whereby we take peoples information and attempt to assess the truth or veracity of the information. This is almost IMPOSSIBLE to do when we do NOT know these people.”

    “In short, everything on here is HEARSAY. We do not have access to the FACTS.

    “Do not become so focused that you develop “tunnel vision” and make your theories FIT no matter what the evidence states.”

  67. Here it is Monday, a new week, and hopefully the week the Buziak family will get some answers. A posted confession and a replica dress someone found at Value Village in Victoria. All in one week! Incredible timing. The media questions whether this could this be a twisted prank or a genuine confession? If this confession turns out to be a hoax and the perpetrator is caught he/she should be charged with public mischief and obstruction of justice, and their name should be published for all to see. And maybe the person responsible should be “billed” for the hours of manpower and police resources this will take to investigate. This is no laughing matter.

    A twisted prank? Hardly, it is vengeful vicious attack on an innocent grieving family and must be taken seriously. Or it could be the conspirators trying to distract! Ross Addicott won’t be hard to find and once the police question him – maybe even polygraph him the truth will be told. In this newscast Lindsay’s father claims he copied and pasted the post and sent it to the police, and I’m wondering why he didn’t just forward the post to them in its original format? For that matter why was it even posted at all. Why not just keep it quiet, send it to the police and let them investigate.

    As for the dress, I’d like to know why the person who purchased it didn’t take it directly to the Saanich Police Dept. rather than taking it home with them? Why didn’t Lindsay father tell the friend to do that. So many things that make no sense, and I guess we’ll all just have to wait for the answers.

    http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/chilling-confession-taunting-message-from-purported-killer-renews-focus-on-stalled-b-c-murder-probe/wcm/61f0f367-6fa4-43ad-a730-6c02f242f772

  68. I would like to squash another silly rumor. This rumor has been circulating around for years. Shirley was not at the crime scene 30 minutes after Lindsay’s murder.

    Lindsay was murdered approx. 5:41 pm. Jason called his mother approx. 6:00 pm from the crime scene and his Mother was at home in Colwood at that time. Jason called 911 approx. 6:05 pm and requested a welfare check. At approx. 6:15 pm the second 911 call went out to the SP. They had still not arrived on scene at this point. The silly rumor puts Shirley at the crime scene at 6:15 pm and the cops aren’t even there yet. How is that possible?

    Timeline:

    The SP arrived on scene approx. 6:30 pm and proceeded upstairs where JZ and CO were. Once they realized this was a murder scene they removed both JZ and CO from the crime scene. At this point, the SP would have locked down the house and put up the crime scene tape. They would have also closed off access to and from neighboring streets.

    When SZ arrived on scene the streets were already blocked off and there was already crime scene tape around the parameter of the house. SZ likely arrived on the scene more like around 6:45 pm. If the police did not arrive until 6:30 and spent time with JZ and CO as well as, locking down the house this would have taken a bit of time.

    If we are to think this scenario out SZ’s actions are not out of the norm. Her son had called her from the Desousa property likely in a panic because he could not get into the house. He called S to see if she had the garage door code. No one knows what Jason told his Mother on the phone or how he sounded but we can only imagine what he did tell her caused his Mother to grow concerned. Especially, when she tried to call her son back and could not reach him. As a parent myself and under those type of circumstances a Mother’s instinct knows when something is wrong. So SZ got in her car and drove from Colwood to the DeSousa property, which is a distance of 24.5 km and travel time of approx. 31 minutes. By the time SZ arrived she saw multiple police vehicles, flashing lights, police tape everywhere, and she was likely stopped by the SP and told she could not drive any further. So what did she do? She had to PARK her vehicle somewhere and try and get to the house where she knew her son and his girlfriend were. Do you blame her for running down the street? Wouldn’t you do the same? As a parent, wouldn’t you be upset too? It would be no different if she came across a traffic accident scene and she suspected her son was involved.

    I bet the SP have evidence that supports SZ was at home in Colwood when she said she was. The SP does have access to phone records in criminal matters. Any person involved in a crime is not going to have their mobile device with them and allow their electronic steps to be traced then lie about where they were. SZ also had a landline which her son may have even called. More evidence to support where she was. It is clear from the timeline that SZ was not at the crime scene at 6:15 pm. The second 911 call was being placed at that time.

    If you are going to start a silly rumor think it through carefully so it makes sense. None of these silly rumors make sense and people are starting to catch on now. When the case goes to court you will get to hear all the facts and evidence of the case and what will you have to say then? Did you forget that one day the truth will come out?

  69. It is refreshing to see comments like this. Clearly, not everyone buys into the BS confession. The investigation is active so understandably, the investigators are not going to discuss the case openly. What is all the fuss about?

    Sue Ferguson – Ridiculous comments by her father. I understand grieving the loss of his daughter but to attack the Saanich Police who do a great job in our community, in such a manner is uncalled for. I am sure they are working as hard as they can to follow and investigate every lead.

    Cindy Shilling – Nothing but a red herring. Do you honestly think the killer would out himself? Anybody can pose as anybody on the site. Just because it says Ross Addic doesn’t mean he wrote it.

    Oscar Delat – I don’t understand why people think this comment is a big deal. Scroll through the history of the comments. This site has a long past of people posing as others to try and stir up trouble.

    I also have a bone to pick with some regulars who are constantly accusing the investigators working on the Lindsay file of “obstruction of justice”. I don’t believe these people even understand what the term means. Let me explain. Obstructing justice occurs when a person WILFULLY attempts to obstruct the course of justice. The term “course of justice’ INCLUDES matters that are at the investigatory stage. Public mischief occurs when a person causes an investigator to BEGIN an investigation with the intention to mislead. A person can mislead the investigator by FALSELY accusing another person of committing a criminal offence, or, causing another person to be SUSPECTED of having committed a criminal offence. A person can also be convicted of ATTEMPTING to commit public mischief.

    It’s utterly disgraceful that the same people complain about the investigators not doing their job yet these same people are likely responsible for wasting some of the resources needed for the Lindsay case. The investigators have to investigate, even if tips turn out to be false or misleading. Since the murderers have not been caught and someone posted a public confession (even if it wasn’t this ROSS person) by law I would surmise the investigators would have to interview Ross now. The police have made it abundantly clear they cannot discuss the case other than to say ALL tips and leads are investigated. I do not understand why the Father forwards this so called “online confession” to the SP then makes a public statement “It makes me sick to think the SP aren’t investigating this but it wouldn’t surprise me they are still trying to get organized.” What makes the Father think the SP isn’t investigating the tip? He is not working along side them so how would he know what they are doing? Why make such a reckless statement in the first place? Always criticizing the only people who can get justice for Lindsay. His followers are just as bad!

  70. Absolutely astounding how easily some people believe this BS confession. If an individual did publically CONFESS because he really did commit a murder, the case would be solved! My bet is, a troll made the post. When a person makes a comment on a blog they can type in any name they like and pretend to be anyone they want. They can say anything they want to take the focus off the real conspirators.
    As for the accusations, the SP is corrupt, that is plain silly. Don’t you think if a police department was corrupt the entire force would have to be corrupt? Then you would have to factor in the other agencies that are also involved. OMG, they would have to be corrupt too in order to go along with the SPD who the witch hunters claim are corrupt. This investigation has cost MILLIONS of dollars and multiple agencies are involved. Oh yeah, and the case has been AUDITED multiple times. Yeah, that makes real sense. Corrupt cops would spend millions of dollars and be able to explain why they need the resources to continue the investigation. 10 years of investigating a case with nothing to show for it, yeah that makes real good sense! Don’t you know by now this is an active investigation and they cannot talk about the case? Does IHIT discuss details about active investigations or are they corrupt too? Oh yeah, didn’t you claim the Saanich Mayor was corrupt too? Now that he is no longer the Mayor I haven’t heard a peep about him. What a circus!!!!

    • That’s how investigator’s separate the bullshit gossip from the true facts. ie: “To substantiate is to prove a claim to be true or back up a claim with evidence.” Words are not enough, they have evidence that will corroborate a persons claim. The investigators can PROVE the TRUTH of statements, etc. That’s why the Zailo’s were cleared! Whereas, the average Joe just makes up bullshit to fit their conspiracy theory.

  71. I just watched the Dream House Mystery show. I cannot believe this murder has not been solved yet. The boyfriend is my number one suspect. Such a horrible crime.

  72. Just like other Saanich homicides of the past the Lindsay Buziak murder will be solved too. Det John Charlton who retired as a detective in Saanich in 2008 used to say, 99% of the time you know right away who did it and why. You just need to find the evidence. Charlton played a key role in solving the murder of Donna Grant in 1996, and Ravi Nutt in 2004. Like John Charlton, the lead investigators on Lindsay’s case know who planned her murder and they know the why. It’s just a matter of time now because statistics show that the Saanich Police have a high success rate of solving homicides. The circumstances in this case are different, more complicated. None the less, the case will be solved.

  73. It’s been like two years now yet I’ve never been able to get a post I read out of my mind. I didn’t read it on this site though. The poster’s name was Avneet but for the life of me I can’t recall his last name. He blamed the private business owners and corporations for importing cocaine into our country not the local thugs. He called Lindsay Buziak money hungry and accused her of extorting a drug dealer with major connections. I was horrified and wondered if the SP were ever made aware of that post. If the poster wasn’t real they’d have no way of reaching out to the person. If the person was real are the police even allowed to call the person in for questioning? Then I thought if the SP already know who the conspirators are then they’d probably just file it in case they might need it at a later date. If you are going to accuse a young murder victim of extortion you’d better be able to back up what you say. It was disgraceful that anyone would dare to post such a awful statement.

  74. The police were never misled by the false information planted by the conspirators about the Z’s. Quite the contrary. The police have been hot on the trail of the conspirators from the very beginning. They received LOADS of corroborated information from very credible sources that led them to the conspirators from the get go. Millions of dollars have been spent on this investigation. That’s how bad they want these little shits!!!!! The real problem here is a lack of hard evidence to tie these assholes to the murder and the conspiracy. In a court of law, you have to PROVE IT! Only ONE way this case is going to be solved and the Dateline experts said this in 2010, “loose lips.” People need to accept this and stop blaming the police for lack of arrests. The law is the law!!! The conspirators may have had all the intentions in the world of TRYING to MISLEAD the investigators but they failed!!!

    Unfortunately, the conspirators have been able to mislead some people and those are the people who are playing right into the conspirator’s hands. They are feeding the fire with more gossip that came directly from the conspirators. Gossip does not solve crimes.

    • There was a rumor out there shortly after the murder that old Joe was good friends with Shirley’s boyfriend Paul and the two of them owned a coffee shop together. Then it continued with Shirley should have got the listing because she was Paul’s girlfriend. Then someone said that Joe Desousa said that the little bitch got what she deserved. Paul & old Joe were never friends, they did not own a coffee shop together, Shirley didn’t even like old Joe. Only the conspirators would fuel a rumor like this because they wanted people to believe the Zailo’s were the conspirators. Like you say the cops were never fooled by any of this. The gossip recipients were probably good people hoping for answers that could help catch Lindsay Buziak’s killers. Best when you hear something that you are not sure is true, or you can’t confirm it to be true, leave it alone. Don’t run with it because you are only making matters worse.

      • That was another rumor started by a guy from the Del group back in 2010. He claimed to have run into Joe Desousa at a gas station and Joe said to him “the little bitch got what she deserved.” I called bullshit on that comment when I first heard it. The truth is the guy who claimed Joe said it was the person who actually SAID IT and those were HIS FEELINGS about Lindsay. This guy is always yapping about “rats and snitches” and warning people never talk to the police. It was obvious to me that this guy was the one that really felt that way about Lindsay, not Joe Desousa. Joe Desousa didn’t even know Lindsay. On the other hand, the guy who made up that rumor did know Lindsay and he associated with Ovidio and the Del Alcazar’s. What a fool to think any one with common sense would believe his crap.

        Lindsay was not the snitch in the Calgary bust. That has been confirmed.

        • I was a commenter on the Facebook forum many years ago. I remember the guy was called out and asked if he reported Joe’s so called remark to the police. He said “no, I never thought to do that”. Seriously? It was so obvious this guy was lying. After the guy was called out about his false remark he came back to the forum and posted this follow up comment(see below). By the way, this guy HATED Joe DeSousa with a passion and that was motive enough for him to lie! He was also friends with the number one suspects in Lindsay’s murder….ta daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa the Dels!

          “Well like most of you who have been following these posts I have been comsumed with alot of what you all have said. So today I got away from the computer and took a drive over to Gordon Head and drove by the subdivision, as I approched the street I saw Joe De sousa getting into a brand new Ford 150 Platinum Pick Up, $50,000 plus, not bad for a guy who claims to be suffering. Knowing he did not reconized to truck I was in I kind of hung back a car or two behind him as he drove past the school near the home 2 times the speed limit in a hurry to get somewhere, So my plan was to hope he would pull into a gas staion or a store parking lot and I would get a chance to “bump into him again” and ask him about what he said to me about Lindsey, I have no problem comfronting him and seeing what he has to say know that it has been two years…….problem was he was driving a little fast and as I got cought in traffic he was long gone……….”

          • I remember this Steve Brown character. He was and still is a snake in the grass who’s sole purpose is to misdirect this murder investigation every chance he gets. He’s been playing double agent for years just like a few others. He pretends to be a good guy, but he’s anything but. His beef with Joe De Sousa should have remained private. Instead he used Joe in his effort to misdirect this murder investigation with the nasty remark about Lindsay. Only reason he didn’t go to the cops is being he was lying. Liars are always exposed in the end. Joe didn’t make that remark and the cops know it.

  75. I have read a lot of comments over the years that Jason was unemotional and did not shed any tears. For those that comment about Jason’s lack of emotion/tears how would you know Jason did not shed any tears? Unless you were with Jason 24/7 following Lindsay’s murder you don’t know if he shed any tears or not. It takes one person to say something and 9 years later people are repeating the same rumor. Seriously? None of us know such personal details of how Jason grieved. People deal with grief differently. Some people rage while others don’t. Some people cry publically while others cry privately.

    The other comment I consistently read is “why did Jason run directly up the stairs, why didn’t he go to the basement or another room in the house.” If Jason did go to another room of the house and found Lindsay in that room the same people would then be saying “why did Jason go directly to the basement, how would he know Lindsay was in the basement. Why didn’t he run straight upstairs?”

    The very intelligent investigators know all the whys. That’s all that matters.

  76. It never made sense to me that the mystery woman would wear a designer dress. Then when I heard it said on Crime Watch Daily that it wasn’t a high-end brand name, rather something that could be bought in a department store I was not surprised. When I first saw the composite drawing of the woman who went in the house, my first thought was, omg that’s my dress. I owned the same dress and had purchased it at Winner’s in Tillicum Mall in 2007. Believe me it was no designer dress, just a comfortable summer dress, reasonably priced, and from what I remember it was the only one like it on the rack. I wish it had been a designer dress as it would have been so much easier for the police to trace. It’s sad that the search for the dress was a dead end. I still have my dress in my closet, not sure why I kept it all these years.

  77. June 30, 2010: Investigators obtained volumes of data from cellphone towers in Vancouver and Victoria to look for matches between the cell phone used by the suspect couple and any other cell phone transmissions, but to date, police have not been able to find a match that might provide information leading to their identification. Horsley said that doesn’t mean the evidence doesn’t exist. “There are literally hundreds of thousands of transmission, and we could still find that link,” he said.

    In 2015 we heard rumblings on the street that Vid’s personal cell phone pinged from the same tower, the same location and the same timeframe as the crime phone used by the mystery couple. This led to the growing rumor that Vid was possibly in possession of the crime phone or was with the mystery couple on February 1, 2008. It was also reported in Feb, 2008 that the crime phone traveled from the Mainland to the Island 24 hours before Lindsay was murdered. They did not say “the couple” traveled from the Mainland to the Island, just the crime phone.

    If the rumors are true, it appears the investigators DID find that link amongst the hundreds of thousands of cell phone transmission. Problem is, cell site analysis can be challenging on a number of levels. It is NOT an EXACT SCIENCE.

  78. It is well-known that the Delalcazar brothers, Ovidio Acevedo, Medardo Rivas, Miguel Rivas, & Leopoldo Beltran are all part of a criminal organization with connections in Mexico, the US and Canada. Lindsay Buziak’s murder was orchestrated by these people and her murder carried out by hired killers who most likely are members of this criminal organization. Brothers Medardo & Miguel who immigrated into this country from El Salvador, Ovidio Acevedo who immigrated to Canada in 1982 from Guatemala, and the Delalcazar brothers who immigrated into this country in the early 80’s from the Philippines. Cirilo Lopez immigrated to this country from the Philippines for the sole purpose of setting up a territory for his life of crime. Cirilo groomed his nephews, the Delalcazar brothers and before long they were all involved in a life of crime. Cirilo was recently released from prison after serving only 3 years of a 10-year sentence and is now back in Victoria, housed and protected by family members. That is what crime families do, protect each other no matter what the crime.

    THE CALGARY DRUG BUST: Erickson Delalcazar arrested in January 2008. His best friend Miguel Rivas arrested on December 3/2008 along with his brother-in-law, Leopoldo Rojo Beltran, a “foreign national”. Beltran had been deported from Canada in 2000, again in Nov 3003. He re-entered Canada illegally sometime between 2003 and 2008. Beltran was once again deported from Canada in 2010 and where he is today is unknown. The judge showed no leniency in his decision, citing Beltran entered Canada illegally and it was planned deliberate and calculated. Beltran was married to Medardo and Miguel’s sister who currently lives in Calgary. At the time of Lindsay’s murder Beltran had a sister living in Burnaby. Court transcripts show that a vehicle used in the Calgary Drug bust was parked in front of his sister’s residence in Burnaby for 3 months. Beltran’s sister left BC and is now living in California where many of Beltran’s other relatives can be found.

    So here we have a group of immigrants who entered this country not because they would be proud to be called a “Canadian, not because they wanted to get a job and contribute to society. They chose a life of crime because they thought it would be easy money. Drug trafficking is a lucrative business and the consequences of getting caught are worth the risk. Just ask Cirilo Lopez.

    1 innocent girl who did not deserve to die. 1 Guatemalan, 5 Filipinos, 2 El Salvadorans, and 1 Mexican “foreign national” still walking the streets. Let’s not blame the cops for this atrophic situation. This is our legal system/court system gone awry and our Canadian government who is not paying attention to who is crossing our borders. What did this group of misfits do after Lindsay’s murder? Some went into hiding while others continued on trafficking in narcotics and other acts of criminality. The dead girl didn’t matter to them, her murder was just another cost of doing business. Lindsay was disposable and one must wonder how many other innocent victims did this criminal organization take out that got in their way of doing business.

    • If Beltran kept sneaking across borders into Canada he likely had a criminal record in Mexico or another country and knew if he applied for landed immigrant status he would be rejected. What was he doing for work when he lived here for short durations? Did his sister have landed immigrant status in Canada and why would she up and leave this beautiful country of opportunities if she didn’t have too? I hoped the cops have looked into her past, and presence in BC, and eliminated her as a suspect in the Buziak murder. She could have been a victim of her brother’s criminal behavior and not known what was he was really up to.

  79. As I was reading the crime watch daily transcript I picked up on something. Sgt. Horsley said when Lindsay was in Calgary in December she reached out to an old acquaintance from Victoria, once by phone and another time through FB. Sgt. Horsley said they don’t know the nature of the call or why Lindsay was on his FB site. What they do know is the person she contacted was the family member of Erickson Delalcazar.

    The SP know who Lindsay reached out to yet they don’t know why. The only person who can tell them is the person Lindsay called. This leads me to believe the person Lindsay contacted has NOT been cooperative with the SP. We know Vid, Rianne, and the Delalcazar’s have never been cooperative. If I were to guess on who Lindsay reached out to my guess would be EMERSON.

  80. I watched Dateline NBC last night. California 1994 20 year old honor roll student Cathy Torres was stabbed to death over 70 times and her throat cut. In the minds of the investigators there was never a question who committed the murder but there was never enough evidence to lay charges. Improved dna technology catch up and an investigator who refused to give up over the years … and finally enough evidence for the crown to prosecute. The ex-boyfriend Sam Lopez, always had a solid alibi, his cousin, but now that new dna had put the cousin at the scene of the crime their alibi was shredding at the seams. Cousin Javier helped dispose of the body so was charged as an accessory after the fact and ex-boyfriend Sam was charged with 1st degree murder. 21 years later both were convicted. Cathy’s family never lost faith in the system.

    Lindsay’s case is very different but some things remain the same. Over time alibis can be broken, new dna technology advances bring new evidence and people eventually talk. There should never be lost hope because this case will be solved. Some involved in Lindsay’s murder will be charged with conspiracy to commit murder, one may be charged as an accessory after the fact. I crossed paths with Medardo Rivas on the street last week. Don’t know him well, just enough to nod and say hello, but on this day I chose not to do that. I just glanced and kept going. I have no idea where his brother Miguel is these days haven’t seen him anywhere around. I just hope that Miguel and Medardo go down for this murder along with the del alcazar brothers. Everyone knows these guys are responsible and like everyone else I can’t wait for the day they are all arrested. I know this murder has been 9 years unsolved but over time history has proved that the cops do solve homicides, some just take longer than others.

  81. Without a doubt this murder was staged, and while somethings at a staged crime scene are obvious other times incorrect conclusions can be reached with a whole set of different outcomes. Physical evidence can tell you what occurred at a crime scene but does not always tell you everything you need to know to accurately reconstruct the events of a crime. A major dilemma in staged crime scenes are the number of people trying to mislead the cops, stories likely formulated during the planning process of a murder. Every lead must be followed up and the lies separated from the truth and that can take 1000’s of hours and leave investigators still scratching their heads. That’s why this case is still unsolved after nearly 10 years.

    A burner phone purchased 8 weeks prior to the murder in Vancouver under the name Paulo Rodrigues. (If the plan to murder Lindsay came after the arrest of Erickson Delalcazar on January 22/2008), then that phone was not “purchased” for the sole plan of murdering Lindsay.

    This murder was staged using a real estate theme to set up realtors to be the scapegoats. But here’s what I can’t figure out. If you are going to set up realtors, why use the Mexican theme? Why not have a Caucasian woman with no accent call Lindsay to set up the appointment. Why use the burner phone purchased under the name Paulo Rodrigues? Why not use a burner phone purchased by John Black. By using the Mexican them you threw suspicion on yourselves which led the cops right to you immediately after the murder. On one hand it appears that the planners wanted the realtors to take the fall, on the other hand using the Mexican woman with an accent they took themselves down. The murder was solved years ago, just awaiting convictions.

    The only reason I can think of that the Mexican theme was used is so Lindsay would have trouble understanding what the woman was saying and names used on the phone would not be understood. That way Lindsay would not be able to confirm the client’s identity or the referral client’s name. This is where the conspirators messed up they did not think that part through and it got them caught up in their own mistakes.

    • “HOLD BACK” would also include what part of Lindsay’s body was stabbed first.

      old comment:

      “Remember, much of the really good info could be considered HOLD BACK by the investigators. This is a term used to describe anything that only the suspects and the police know. it is critical to keep Hold Back evidence secret.”

      “for example….where the crime phone was bought may be Hold Back. As the police know, and the suspects know, then having a person reveal the place of the cell phone purchase would clearly indicate their direct knowledge of this crime.”

      • Criminals frequently have burner phones on hand, trust me on this one. The purchase time of the phone doesn’t nessisarily indicate anything

        • Carb I agree with your analogy. They could have bought a large supply of burner phones(one from a number of stores around town) for the Calgary drug operation in November 2007 for an example and used one of them in January. On the other hand, buying the phones in bulk from ONE place and using some in the calgary drug operation and one in a murder would be very risky, wouldn’t it? Since the parties in the calgary operation were all caught I would imagine their phones were seized too. Don’t these phones have serial numbers? Wouldn’t they be able to trace the one phone used in the murder to the lot that was bought in bulk? I know the burner phone was never found but when it’s registered online do you have to enter the serial number? Maybe you can tell us how it works? Maybe they buy burner phones one at a time at different locations? It would be pretty dumb to buy 10 phones from one store and use 9 of the phones in the drug operation and the 10th phone to lure Lindsay to her death.

          I think the “hold back” info they are referring to is based on the business address where the burner phone was purchased. The cops have never publicized the business address.

          • The person who bought the burner phone at the no name place of business had to know the CCTV footage would be recorded over. It is my belief there are other reasons the place of business has not been publicized.

          • I agree, that could be important holdback information that may come into play one day. I remember
            one morning shortly after the murder, the address of where the phone was purchased in downtown Vancouver was announced on the radio, the same broadcast where I heard that they were looking for a woman’s size 9 shoe. It was a Vancouver radio station but I can’t remember which one. It was a one time thing and I never heard it again. As far as I know that information was never in the newspapers. How many convenience stores in a 5-block radius could there have been in downtown Vancouver in 2008. Eliminate the ones that did not sell phones and there’s only a few left.

        • I agree with your comment that criminals always have burner phones at their disposal. Drug dealers most definitely. As for the timing of the phone purchase I think it means nothing at all, a mere coincidence.

    • Lindsay never received the name of the referral. When Lindsay asked the female caller who the referral was the woman told her “a FRIEND of my husbands”. This information came from a very reliable source many years ago. The female apparently told Lindsay she did not know the referral name as it was her husband’s FRIEND. This information aligns with the information the male suspect provided to Lindsay when he called Lindsay on Saturday morning to say he was coming alone. Lindsay asked him where he got her number and he told Lindsay from “HIS FRIEND”. This was also mentioned in the press. There were rumors around town that the female caller gave Lindsay the name of one of Lindsay’s former clients and that Lindsay tried to contact the former client but could not reach her as she was out of town. This rumor only fuelled the previous rumors that only a realtor could have inside information on Lindsay’s former clients. If we are to look at this logically, it makes more sense the mystery couple never gave Lindsay a referral name period, especially the name of one of her former CLIENT’S. Lindsay could have run a background check on the “friend referral name” if they provided one. Especially, since Lindsay was already apparently feeling a little uneasy about the couple. Why would the conspirator’s risk giving Lindsay a referral name and having her find out they were lying?

      ____________________________________________________________
      February 5, 2008

      The first call was from a woman with a strong foreign accent, said one of Buziak’s colleagues at the Re/Max Camosun office. “The woman asked to see properties in the $1-million price range in quiet neighborhoods and had to buy in a day,” said the realtor. “The second call was from a man. That made her uncomfortable because he wanted to meet her alone. He said his wife couldn’t meet her there. “I heard she was uncomfortable about the whole thing because it was so out of the blue. “The call was on her cell phone. ‘Hey, we’re coming to town and we want to buy a million-dollar house.’ “I heard other people in the office warned her that this was a bit weird. Someone said to her, ‘That’s a little bit strange.’ ” Buziak asked the caller how he got her number. He said he got it from a friend. “She didn’t know the people and started getting nervous and said ‘What do I do about this,’ ” said the colleague. Buziak’s father Jeff, who is in Victoria from the family home in Calgary, wanted to know why his daughter was allowed to show the house by herself if she felt uncomfortable. “Those are questions we all want answers to,” he said. Buziak’s body was found in an empty Gordon Head home, listed for sale at $964,900, about 6 p.m. Saturday.
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      I don’t believe it was a “Mexican theme” the conspirator’s used, I believe the female caller truly had a thick, Spanish sounding accent and may very well have been a “MEXICAN WOMAN”. (the real conspirators have relatives and associates who are MEXICAN. Some Mexican’s can look “Caucasian”) The mistake the conspirators made was in trying to make the murder appear to be a crime of passion carried out by hired killers. They tried to make it look like the Zailo’s hired a couple to murder Lindsay. They tried to make it appear as though only a REALTOR could have set up the murder. We know that the conspirators did not have to be realtors. They just had to be “someone close” to Lindsay like MISS GRACIA was. It wouldn’t surprise me to learn that it was MISS GRACIA who suggested to Lindsay that she add the mystery couple to her contact list under the name “THE MEXICAN’S”. Remember, this murder was made to appear as though the Zailo’s hired a “hit team”. Keep in mind the conspirators also planted rumors that the zailo’s were involved in drug trafficking and money laundering.

      People who stage a crime to misdirect an investigation usually make mistakes because they stage it to look the way they think it should look. While doing this, they experience a high level of stress and do not have time to fit all the pieces together LOGICALLY. Inconsistencies will appear in the overall picture of the crime.

      There are reasons someone employs staging. It is usually to try and misdirect the investigation AWAY from themselves. When a crime is staged, the responsible person is not someone who just happened upon the victim (like Jason discovering Lindsay’s body for instance). It is usually someone very close to the victim (like MISS GRACIA and company). They will further attempt to steer the investigation away from themselves by their conduct when in contact with the investigators. (MISS GRACIA was cooperative in the beginning and there was a good reason for that. She pointed her dirty fingers at the Zailo’s as being the “masterminds”. She only cooperated with the investigator’s so she could try and misdirect the investigators to the Zailo’s). The investigators were not fooled by MISS GRACIA’S overly cooperative and overly distraught behaviour though. I believe MISS GRACIA has been a POI for a very long time. She did not have the smarts to fit all the pieces together logically. She stopped cooperating with the investigators when they began to ask her questions she didn’t like. She has never volunteered for a poly. On the other hand, the Zailo’s have fully cooperated and volunteered/passed polys.

      • Yes, I remember that very clearly. This is another article that said “friend” I wonder who started the rumor that it was a “former client”? I guess by stating it was a “former client” it made the other rumors sound more believable in that only a realtor would have access to Lindsay’s client list, therefore, it had to be the Zailo’s and an inside job.

        Agents in the office say Buziak was uncomfortable about the situation because she’d be meeting the man alone, and because the call came out of the blue asking to see houses that very day. She reportedly asked how the couple got her cellphone number, and they indicated a friend had given it to them.
        https://www.pressreader.com/canada/times-colonist/20080205/281483567069066

  82. This is incredibly detailed information and so easy to understand. For me this clears up a lot of the confusing statements that I read and heard, many of which made no sense. This is all about the murder of a young woman who deserves justice, so what possible motive could there be for a person to put false information in order to mislead people. No good could come from that?

  83. I must admit I was one of those people who used to believe the Zailo’s were guilty. I believed the information I read about and formed that opinion. I have a very different opinion today and I’m thankful I came to my senses. I hope there is justice soon and the animals are put behind bars.

  84. Girlfriends of bad boys are not immune to violence and many young girls have paid the ultimate price for love ending up dead because their boyfriends are caught up in gangs, drugs and violence. It’s the lure of the money and the lifestyle that draws these young women in and they don’t realize what they are getting into until its too late. If I recall Lindsay was with Matt for quite a few years and at one time was buying burner phones for him. Nice boyfriend. Loser. Of course she knew what they were up to, how could she not. Lindsay finally realized this was not the life she wanted and she got the hell away from Matt. Unfortunately, she still had her friend Rianne who was with Vid and connected to the Delalcazar crew. And that connection is why she is dead. Lindsay knew too much and whatever she knew or they thought she knew got her killed. I don’t believe this has anything to do with Jason Zailo, it’s Matt Macduff, Vid and the Delalcazar brothers and a few others without a doubt.

    A few BC young woman murdered all because they were involved with boyfriends who were gangsters.
    Mandie Johnson 22, murdered, Jessica Illes 23, murdered, Nicole Alemy 23, murdered, Brittany Giese 19, murdered. Lexi Madsen 26, murdered, Brianne Kinnear 22, murdered.

    Cowards join gangs, real men join teams. Gangsters are losers and going out with one because they have money isn’t worth paying the ultimate price. A little fun and excitement is not worth dying for. RIP Lindsay.

    • MacDuff has a solid alibi for where he was the night of the murder. Even so I’d like to know how his being out of town that weekend came about. I heard he was at his girlfriend’s parents place in Cowichan. Was that planned weeks in advance or spur of the moment? It’s not holiday season and not the time of year people go up to the lake. You have to wonder about the timing and was it Matt who insisted on going up to Cowichan or was he encouraged by the family to go. In my mind it makes a big difference.

  85. Narcissistic Sociopath – Sociopathy combined with narcissism can be extremely dangerous

    They Have a “Sixth Sense” for Spotting the Right People to Manipulate – Narcissists and sociopaths are extremely good at sniffing out trusting, vulnerable people, who tend to see the good in others – (Rianne aligned herself with a few members of the civilian investigation to gain intel. She reported all the info back to the VID and the Del crew. After Rianne was exposed, she then created different personas and got in touch with said members again under the pretense she wanted to help the cause.)

    They have no empathy for others and are capable of violence –(MURDER?)

    They are remorselessly vindictive when thwarted or exposed – (Rianne was extremely vindictive and revengeful to the parties she aligned herself with years earlier. She was furious after she was exposed.)

    A sociopath is always “pitting” people against each other, A Sociopath will always be smearing someone and inciting people against each other. Sociopaths do not want people to like or get along with each other and will try to “divide and conquer.” They will say odd things to people in the social group: “She doesn’t like you” or “She doesn’t want me doing anything with you. – (Rianne was constantly causing drama and conflict amongst friends. It got so bad no one wanted her around anymore. She preferred to have her friend Lindsay all to herself rather than in a group setting.)

    Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited power, success, brilliance, beauty or ideal everlasting, all-conquering love or passion – (Rianne fantasized about marrying a police officer and having his children yet she constantly criticized the police every chance she got. She also claimed one of Lindsay’s ex-boyfriends offered her 1 million to have his babies.)

    Believes her or she is “special” and can only be understood by similarly special, high-status people – (Rianne adopted the name “MyWPrivilege” and went on a posting rampage.)

    Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial commitments – (Rianne has never been able to hold down a job for too long.)

    Requires excessive admiration, adulation, attention, and affirmation – or, failing that, wishes to be feared and to be notorious – (Rianne has had numerous failed relationships due to her consistent neediness. She demands her partners spend every second with her and that they should be alone together with no friends around. Needless to say, her partners quickly ended the relationships and have labeled her as “crazy”. There is a pattern here. A narcissistic sociopath sees love and admiration as power tools to manipulate and dominate, it’s the POWER she craves.)

    Constantly envious of others and seeks to hurt or destroy the objects of his or her frustration. (Rianne has admitted openly that she was jealous and extremely envious of Lindsay).

    Pathological lying, can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing – (Rianne was a good liar but she did not fool everyone. Rianne thinks she is smarter than the police but she is not. Rianne tried to manipulate many different people over the years but only succeeded in a few.)

    Lack of remorse or guilt. A lack of feelings or concern for the losses, pain, and suffering of victims – (Shortly after Lindsay’s murder Rianne met with Lindsay’s Father under the pretense she wanted to comfort him and lend her support. The real reason she wanted to meet with him was so she could see HIS PAIN)

    A narcissistic sociopath is unable to tolerate criticism and needs constant praise, as well as deference from other people. Many with this condition present themselves in the best light possible and are able to easily charm others to gain their trust. These people are mentally ill and extremely dangerous!

    • Allow me to weigh in, Rianne was most likely good at deception by initially promoting a false clean image of herself. Some individuals can be very good at pretending to be good and caring, misleading while leading a double life until something slips through the cracks. The charade can’t last forever. People, who are not exposed to crime and violence during their informative years, may not immediately recognize deviance in others. I believe Lindsay recognized some deviant behavior in Rianne and others she associated with. Lindsay’s own lifestyle is evidence she would not intentionally seek out or have the desire to associate with people who did not share her ethics or values. However, Dateline did state Lindsay associated with some people who were known criminals. Unfortunately, Lindsay was not aware how really dangerous some of these individuals were.

    • After Lindsay’s murder Rianne started making music videos, and friends wondered how she could afford to do that because just renting a studio and equipment can run thousands a day, never mind all the other costs that go with starting a music career. She must have come into money somewhere. Her dream of becoming a rap star faded quickly though, it never got off the ground. Her music was okay but she certainly was not star material. She was a weird odd chick hard to get to know and kept very much to herself most of the time. Not surprised to read this stuff about her.

    • Rianne hates the Saanich Police and says they are corrupt, but she refuses to give any information that would support what she says. Apparently she is okay with the VPD and I’ve heard she sometimes stops by there to chat with them. Evidentially she trusts some cops but not others. She’s an expert at mind games because she believes she is untouchable.

      • I lived in the same building as rianne a few years ago. I lived across the hall from her. One night I heard a loud knock and looked out the peephole and saw four plainclothes police at her door. I heard her yelling at them to stop harassing her. One of them said, “you either talk to us tonight or we will see you tomorrow at your place of employment.” She told them they couldn’t come into her apartment but she would meet them at the police station in one hour. She was really angry and slammed the door. I heard her come back and it was 4 hours later. Shortly after she arrived home some guy showed up at her door. He was creepy looking. Bald. She no longer lives in my building. There was something really weird about her. She never left her apartment. she acted really paranoid.

        • I’m thinking that her rushed visit to the police right after the murder had to be part of the pre-arranged plan by the conspirators. Run to the police, set the Zailo’s up to look guilty/ take the fall. Tell the cops you suspect the Zailo’s cause it could only be realtors that did this. Lindsay is murdered and Rianne never goes back to work at the Remax office. Of course she couldn’t go back to work, she was afraid of the Zailos. Gosh I’d sure like to know why she was afraid of them.

    • There’s no doubt that Lindsay’s murder is connected to the Calgary drug bust. A real hit a real loss to those involved, but these guys would never have concocted such an elaborate scheme to commit this murder. A bullet to the head would have been there way. Stabbing someone in a vacant house is too high risk. This murder has all the markings of a woman seeking her own revenge for whatever reason. The opportunity was there and this girl Rianne took it. Was she rejected by Lindsay, one of Lindsay’s boyfriends or someone else? A woman rejected in love or a non-love situation can be dangerous, angry and, highly vindictive, out for revenge if the opportunity knocks. Opportunity did knock. Someone rejected this girl, probably someone who cared very much for Lindsay. This could have been the ultimate payback. Maybe I’m way out there but something just isn’t right.

      • It’s inconceivable to think that a young woman could have planned this murder so I’m not convinced. Is there a history of psychological problems with this girl being accused ? This horrid haunting act of violence could only have been committed or planned by a psychopath. I listened to one of the experts say that the killer was told to make Lindsay suffer. That’s insane. So many unnecessary stab wounds, Lindsay was probably dead after the first few stabs of the knife. The rest I see as hatred and overkill.

  86. Some people are questioning how Jason would know Lindsay’s body was in the master bedroom. There is a logical explanation for this. If you look at the floor plan you can see that once Jason got to the top of the stairs, the master bedroom was directly in front of him and he could see Lindsay’s body on the floor(marked by the red X). He did not go looking for the master bedroom as some want you to believe. There is also a reasonable explanation why Jason ran directly up the stairs. Sgt. Horsley explained this on Crime Watch Daily.

    floor plan

    • I am convinced the killers knew the layout of the upper level and the “exact” location of the master bedroom before stepping foot in that house. No way they went in there cold. They made their attack at the entrance to the en-suite knowing that they could not be seen from the street. That took forethought and planning. On another point, many believed the Torquay neighbor was paid to keep his family out of the house that night, as the killers escape was out the rear of the home. They could not risk being confronted with the neighbors barking dog or a family looking out their back windows. The story could be true but now we must think of it as a red herring. As Sgt Horsley stated on the Crime Watch Daily show the couple was leaving out the front and if Jason and Cohen had been 5 seconds later they would have run smack into them. The couple was always leaving through the front so that’s why they had no reason to be concerned about the neighbor behind with and a barking dog. Okay so Jason had to say he saw two shadows through the frosted leaded glass when he appeared on the NBC Dateline. But now that we know the truth, he saw 2 people leaving through the front door. When seeing Jason’s vehicle pull into the cul-de-sac they slowly turned and went back in. In my opinion that changes everything. I’d still like to know why Jason wasn’t concerned when he did not see a second vehicle parked on the street, because he knew Lindsay was meeting the couple there and she had no plan to pick them up. But now, thinking with new logic just maybe there was a few cars parked on Torquay and Jason thought one of the vehicles was the clients.

      • That theory was so ridiculous and not even believable. The conspirators would never have involved an OUTSIDER! The conspirator’s and killers are family and loyal to each other. That’s why this case remains unsolved. I don’t think they are worried about any double-crossers either. I’m sure they have put some written guarantees in place in the event one winds up dead. In other words, the truth will emerge in the event one of them is killed therefore they are likely all alive.

        The couple never gave Lindsay their name because they didn’t want Lindsay google searching the name and finding out they were bogus. They obviously told Lindsay they had a ride to the house and Lindsay likely told others this information. The couple couldn’t very well say “oh geez can you pick us up at such and such an address?” That would explain why Jason wasn’t expecting a second car in the driveway.

        The goal was to get Lindsay to that house ALONE so they could murder her. They knew in advance Jason would not be there.

        • Not all of these guys are related by blood but they grew up together, partied together, and committed crimes together. Not blood relatives but in their minds they are family and the bond of trust can not be broken. 10 years of silence proves that much. IMO not one of these idiots had the brains to plan a murder, and after the Calgary bust they were too enraged and hell bent on revenge to think straight. They wanted answers, and if they couldn’t find the rat they’d settle for the scapegoat. Only a narcissist sociopath with a very dark side is capable of pulling this off and it’s a woman for sure. Rianne’s actions before and after Lindsay’s murder are highly suspicious. I think it’s possible the guys thought that Rianne was the rat, fearing for her life she told them it wasn’t her it was Lindsay. No one wanted to die and it was every man for himself. Lindsay paid the price for someone’s else’s mistake/lie. Whoever the mastermind is will spend her life watching over her shoulder and it’s not likely she will ever marry or have a family of her own. A sociopath has no regrets and no worries. Getting away with murder was the ultimate adrenalin rush, a real high that she is still living. She played the cops, Lindsay’s family and friends and she is laughing her ass off at her 10 year run at freedom.

    • This floorplan would have been kept in the listing file at the Re/Max office. Any realtor who had a client interested in this property could have asked the listing realtor to see the floorplan. Today, realtors submit their listings directly to the Real Estate Board but in 2008 that was not the case. New listings were left in a specific location in the office and it was not the conveyance or accounting dept that would submit the listing into the system, it would be a member of the support staff that worked the front end on the day the listing was turned in. That day was Monday Jan 7th 2008. If Ms Gracia was working that day it could have been her, but in fairness it could have been anyone. One thing for sure, the floorplan was at her disposal and could easily have been passed to someone on the outside. The floorplan of that home was all the conspirators needed to set their plan in motion and there is little doubt that an insider was in on the planning. In fairness, this home had been listed a few times before so the floorplan could have been seen by many realtors over previous months. Wait though, if this murder is all about the Calgary Drug bust and the planning was only set in motion in the 2nd to 3rd week in January then only persons involved in the murder would have any interest in that floorplan. Why would any realtor in that office of sound mind plan a murder around a real estate theme and set themselves up to be the main suspects. It doesn’t make a lot of sense when you really think about it. I’d like to know why Ms. Gracia quit her job the day after Lindsay was murdered. I think she may have put a target on her head when she made that decision. I just wish she would come forward and clear all this up.

    • It was written in the MLS listing that the floor plans were available, which means anyone working in that office had easy access. I am curious why no one has made mention of the guest quarters/suite in the finished basement in the Desousa home. Did the buyers choose this home because it had a basement/ separate accommodations for their housekeeper? I am surprised they chose to murder Lindsay in the master bedroom rather than down in the basement. So many unanswered questions.

  87. Emerson Lopez Delalcazar is the heater head in the family. He once threatened Lindsay’s Father on Face Book. Sandy, who is head of the fam and his best bro Medardo ordered Emerson off FB. They were afraid Emerson would blurt something out about Lindsay’s murder. I think Emerson may have suffered some irreparable brain damage the night Michael Hamer bottled him. Funny story, the so-called “untouchable Del bro’s” stood by shaking in their boots while Michael took care of Emerson. None of them intervened to try and help their bro. Vid pissed himself he was so scared. Cowards!!
    FB post
    medardo

    Emerson and Medardo

    • Once referred to as the E Town boys/Esquimalt Crips the Delalcazars have terrorized the people of Esquimalt with their mob/pack mentality for years. ErikSON, EmerSON, JefferSON, EldreigSON, and EdwardSON (Sandy). Where were the parents of these 5 loser sons when they were out terrorizing their community? Erickson was once charged with possession of a prohibited weapon, a search was done of the Delalcazar family home and weapons were found in a back bedroom. Intimidation got Erickson off on that charge because two late breaking witnesses, one his ex-girlfriend Jenessa and another a crip member refused to testify. Eldreigson has an extensive youth record for assaults and other offenses, and so does short fuse goof Emerson. This bunch have controlled the entire Victoria area with their threats bullying, and intimidation. How can one family do so much damage to a community and get away with it. Emerson attacking Lindsay’s father on face book just shows how brazen and untouchable they think they are. They were smart to order him off facebook. They probably knew that he might get drunk one night and spill his guts about the murder. On the other hand, if Emerson is as stupid as everyone says, maybe the brothers that were involved left the loser brother out. Today they make a living selling drugs and think nothing of the youth that are dying in the streets. Their close friend Medardo slinks around Victoria keeping a low profile, doing odd jobs around town knowing that one day that knock will come, and he will go down for the part he played in Lindsay Buziak’s murder. Just who was the mastermind behind this murder. Head of the family Sandy Delalcazaar, Rianne Gracia or both. It’s sure wasn’t Rianne’s boyfriend, the drunken diabetic loser Vid. He couldn’t fight his way out of a paper bag. No it’s most likely the girl with the degree, the envy, and the jealousy that followed the orders and put this plan into action.

  88. The burner phone was purchased end of November 2007. It was ACTIVATED right after ERICKSON DELALCAZAR was charged in the Calgary drug bust JANUARY 22, 2008. The woman used the burner phone to call Lindsay a HALF A DOZEN times from the Vancouver area beginning on JANUARY 30, 2008. As most of you know, drug traffickers purchase burner phones in bulk and have a supply on hand. Yes, the burner phone was purchased before Erickson was busted in January but it was activated AFTER his arrest in January. So, purchasing a burner phone in November does not necessarily mean that’s when they began planning the actual murder. If the Del’s are involved it means they just happened to have a supply of burner phones available to them already and they used one in this crime. January is also the time frame Lindsay had a physical altercation with Matt’s new girlfriend at the time. It was also the same time frame Lindsay decided she was going to remain in her relationship with Jason. What was going on the end of January besides ERICKSON getting busted and being denied bail the day before Lindsay was murdered? Oh yes, the Del’s and crew were yanking people out of their beds and slapping them around demanding to know who they spoke to. Erickson was sitting in a jail cell and he was PISSED!!!! Maybe Lindsay’s best friend who was pathologically envious of her whispered in VID’s ear “It was Lindsay who snitched, she told me.” OR, maybe Erickson determined for himself that it was Lindsay OR, his nutjob brother blamed Lindsay because Lindsay overheard him say something to someone. These guys brag about being “UNTOUCHABLE” . Guess who pointed their fingers at Ziggy and the Zailo’s as being involved in Lindsay’s murder? Matt and Rianne! They planted all the rumors about Ziggy, Shirley, Jason, and Ryan. Two people did that. Has anyone ever been able to prove one of these rumors as being true? No. The parrots keep them going. That’s what a witch hunt is all about. Good people don’t lie and intentionally put out false information about other people under the pretense they are seeking justice for Lindsay. Good people who are seeking Justice for Lindsay care about the TRUTH.

    Erickson and Graham Scott Taylor were the ONLY TWO busted before Lindsay’s murder. The twelve others who were busted AFTER Lindsay was murdered. Alycia Faithful Lebrun was busted November 2008 in Cranbrook. Alycia voluntarily submitted to a polygraph and passed. People are under the impression if 1 or 2 people from the bust were involved in Lindsay’s murder it means all 14 were. That’s not the case. Lindsay had different groups of friends. Someone once stated that Jason was not happy with a certain group of Lindsay’s friends and didn’t like Lindsay hanging out with them. That group was Vid, Erickson, Sandy, Medardo, Rianne, Matt, etc. Lindsay was best friends with Rianne so if she hung out with Rianne it meant she also hung out with Rianne’s boyfriend VID and the Del crew. That’s what it’s all about. Groups of friends get together, go to the clubs and enjoy themselves. Rianne was extremely ENVIOUS of Lindsay. It was almost pathological. Lindsay was the center of attention wherever she went and Rianne DESPISED that! Rianne admittedly RESENTED Lindsay. No wonder VID hated Lindsay. Rianne hated Lindsay deep down inside and Rianne’s baby VIDDY did as Rianne told him to do.

    “Police stopped a van near Cranbrook in November 2008 and investigators became suspicious the vehicle was being used to smuggle drugs. Investigators seized the van, towed it to an impound lot and obtained a search warrant. Officers gave the woman driving the van a ride to a local motel after impounding the vehicle.”

    “Police said their search turned up eight kilograms of cocaine, with an estimated worth of $600,000 on the street if sold by the gram. Alycia Lynn Faithful-Lebrun, 20, of Calgary was charged with trafficking and possession of cocaine for the purpose of trafficking.”

    • I too find it highly suspicious that Vid was pointing a gun at Jason while Matt was standing there doing nothing. Why would Vid care what Jason saw unless he was involved in Linsday’s murder? These guys really do think they are untouchable to pull that off. It wasn’t the other way around and Shirley was pointing a gun at someone demanding to know what they saw. Geez, that is too much!!!

      • Shirley’s finances and how she came to acquire real estate holdings is her own personal business. Shirley is not a suspect in Lindsay’s murder, if she had been, her financial holdings would have been scrutinized by the SP Dept. and CRA. The woman has been a successful realtor for years, consistently making over 300K a year. Not to mention the salary she has received for managing two Re/Max offices these past several years. This rate my realtor site someone posted is no way representative of a realtor’s standings. It’s a joke. Shirley had over 40 sales in 2016, 52 in 2007 etc. She is a MLS gold award winner each year which means she is in the top 10% of realtors in Victoria. Her success in real estate does not mean she is a nice person. She may be nasty like some posters have said. I have no idea. There are a lot of nasty people out there but it does not make them conspirators or murderers.

        http://www.shirleyzailo.com/recent-sales?page=4

      • This is fascinating information that I have never heard before. Thanks for the update. The SP have obviously been on the right track with these goons and have allowed them to think they are “untouchable”. Looking forward to the day they slap the cuffs on all of them.

        Thank you for your continued service SP, RCMP, and supporting agencies.

        God Speed!

    • I know that Lindsay was working at the Lookout in late 2006 – early 2007. After the murder Matt Macduff told me that Lindsay called him one day, told him that Jason had dropped by the site for coffee and had brought this guy Ziggy with him. She was asking Matt if he knew him. Matt told Lindsay to stay clear of Ziggy, he was bad news. I found the story strange for two reasons. First, if Jason was trying to impress Lindsay, why would he not come alone. Why bring this creep Ziggy along for the ride. Secondly I thought Matt and Lindsay had no contact for over a year. Well Lindsay is dead, and there is none to collaborate Matt’s story. Now I have to wonder if this was part of the plan after murder for Matt to point the finger at Ziggy and the Zailos. Deception and deflection all in order to misdirection a homicide investigation. It’s beyond belief.

  89. Cirilo
    Well, it started in 95 when Uncle Cirilo Lopez(who is currently now a Bandido) jacked the HA for a kilo. Cirilo was in bed with Ricardo Scarpino for years but occasionally went up island to get dope off the angels, or across the water to get it from the brown guys known as the Dahk – Duhre gang. When Cirilo left for Ontario in 98 his successor was.. SANDY Delalcazar.

    Medardo is Sandy’s best friend and his little brother Miguel is Erickson’s best friend. Medardo was the first of the Vic crew to move to Calgary. Like I said, they are very close with the Delalcazars. In the late nineties you’d see Medardo and Miguel there every day. They are part of the brothers. Yes ….. Cirillo hung out with two brothers…Jag and Jas Bains.

    Vid is very close to the nephews, he is also close to Jag and Jas Bains.

    The three older brothers all had their own friends who were usually younger brothers or cousins of Cirilo Lopez friends. When the family had a BBQ and all the brothers friends came over…it was gangland for sure.

    Delalcazars – ever since Uncle Cirilo jacked the Nanaimo angels unretaliated in 94 ….the family went on to take over Victoria! Scarpino was the boss until Cirilo nephews grew up. Delalcazars still on top

    CIRILO LOPEZ, if you don’t know who he is you don’t know shit. In the nineties they all started working for Ricardo Scarpino, Mitch Mishour and Cirilo took that over. They hate hells angels and will beat anyone wearing support clothes. They got all their work from the Dahk /Dure crew

    Ricardo Scarpino was the long time supplier of Cirilo Lopez, Mitch Mishour, Ming Tsang, and crew. Mitch was the partner of Cirilo he did runs for Scarpino for extra bank. He was also the hitman …mind you Cirilo got a body as well. Don’t ask who cause unlike most idiots who get arrested…these guys will take those secrets to the grave. Mitches arch enemy was the head of the Portuguese gangsters of that era named Victor Camera. Wouldn’t be surprised if Scarpino was a Angels job considering he was the main rival on Vancouver Island for almost 20 years. They get most their stuff direct from the South Via Washington State. They bypassed the other local crews

    At this time the “Flips ” as they were referred to in Victoria were teenagers (Del Alcazars) assembled a crew of the most violent Spanish, European, middle eastern and Native kids. They learned how to hustle partially from watching their Uncle Cirilo and his friends. Over the next decade, they beat, stabbed and shot their way to the top of the Victoria drug game. The main reason is quite simple, these guys will not hesitate to hurt anyone who crosses them…if they lose a fight they will keep coming back until you realize they are actually nuts.

    Nowadays, the Delalcazar brothers are now bosses of their own crews. They are practically UNTOUCHABLE and only get arrested for beating up lippy people at bars and parties who didn’t know better. They are better organized than most high profile gang and well known by all gangsters

    The brothers moved to Vic in 93/94 and became citizens in 94. It was Cirilo who came over a decade earlier and figured out the game in Vic. He cliqued up with the toughest ethnic kids he could find and its been a rap even since. The first of the brothers to get in trouble was actually the second oldest and the toughest of the bunch Emerson. The three older brothers all created their own crews …under the guise of their uncle …his friends but more importantly some of their peers they took over the Vic coke game before their 18th bdays….the two younger brothers learned and grew into the next wave of thugs ...by 2000 all the brothers were each making thousands of dollars a week off of drugs.

    • Cirilo was convicted and sentenced to 4 years imprisonment in 1998. Conspiracy to traffic in narcotics. On March 5, 2000, he was released on full parole. While at large, he was charged with assault causing bodily harm and, as a result, a suspension warrant was issued on March 27, 2000, pursuant to s. 135(1) of the Act. He was apprehended and returned to custody at William Head Institution on that day. Obviously Cirilo is a habitual criminal who could re-offend again at any time. So he’s made Victoria his safe haven has he? Anyone know where Cirilo is living right now? I’ll bet he’s living with one of his Lopez brothers or one of his Delalcazar nephews. Crime families always protect their own, no matter what the crime.

  90. Who was it that was selling off assets right after the bust? It was Sandy Delalcazar head of the family. We heard back in 2011 that Sandy sold his brand new home to Omar shortly after the bust. Sgt Horsley said on Crime Watch Daily that the investors lost millions. Well, there is always a price to pay when something goes wrong and someone has to be held accountable. It was the Delalcazar camp that had to cover the loss, not the Zailo’s. The boys invested a pile of money in a quick get rich scheme and the plan backfired. Now Medardo is doing menial labor work, Sandy lives at home with his parents on Carrie Street, Erickson & Vid are still selling drugs cause its the only thing they know. Lindsay is dead because someone pointed the finger at her as the snitch. As for personal, of course it was personal. Lindsay and Matt were friends with these people, they partied together even at Lindsay’s home when she lived with her mother. Whoever named Lindsay as the snitch was only concerned about saving their own ass. Jealousy is a strong reason for wrongfully accusing someone. Rianne was admittedly very jealous of Rianne. Focus on who is really responsible for Lindsay’s murder. Wonder what Uncle Cirilo thinks about all this now he’s back in town? As he’s not employable, no doubt he’ll be back in the drug business just like he has been his entire life. What a loss to the community to have this deplorable piece of garbage back in town. Who was the informant that went to the Calgary police? Not really hard to figure it out is it?

  91. Ziggy never said “Lindsay’s murder was a mistake”. Someone else claimed ziggy said that. That’s called gossip.

    If I said “Aaron Perez said that John Smith told him that Jane Doe went into the house and murdered Lindsay” would that make it true? No, because Aaron Perez is not a credible person nor is John Smith.

    Unfortunately, some people are believing gossip and mistaking it for the truth. They develop a theory based on misinformation. It’s easy to do as I’ve done it myself.

    Don’t believe everything you hear.

  92. Lindsay was contemplating leaving months before her murder but she changed her mind. Police also use common sense in criminal investigations. I agree with you in that people do stay in situations that are not always healthy for them. In Lindsay’s case, her own sister stated Lindsay was extremely happy with Jason. Her mother was happy with Jason. Sure every relationship has it’s up and downs. The choices and decisions Lindsay made point to her being happy with Jason and family not that she was scared of them. It’s not an assumption its factual corroborated information.

    As you probably heard on the CWD show Jason was under intense police scrutiny and cooperated fully with the investigation. He passed a polygraph. That is telling in itself. Lindsay’s ex-boyfriend has not done the same. Lindsay’s best friend Rianne has not cooperated either. These people are the ones who pointed their fingers at Jason and said he did it. Don’t you think that’s highly suspicious? Matt’s friend VID(who was in charge of the burner phone) pointed a gun at Jason and demanded to know what he saw at the house. Rianne worked with Lindsay and was dating the guy who pointed the gun at Jason. Why is everyone jumping all over Jason who passed a polygraph and cooperated fully with the investigation yet no one is concerned with the odd behavior of Matt, Vid, Rianne, Erickson, etc? Care to weigh in on that?

    The public has every right to their opinions including myself. Intentionally lying and putting out false information is not an opinion though. It’s done to hinder a criminal investigation. There is a huge difference. Police eliminate persons of interest from their suspect list all the time. It’s part of police investigations. If they have removed Jason from their list it’s because they know he’s not a suspect.

  93. Kudos go out to Sgt. Horsley, Chief Downie, numerous other investigator’s and the multiple agencies involved in Lindsay’s file. You have dedicated yourselves and worked tirelessly to solve this case. As we all can appreciate, some cases are more complex and you only have so much to work with. You should all be proud of how hard you all worked. All you need is that one last piece and you’re own the road to convictions. That day will come. Keep up the hard work!

  94. I viewed the Crime Watch Daily show this afternoon and was not surprised to hear that Jason had no involvement in his girlfriend’s murder. I realize now that I must come clean so I will make this public disclosure. Shortly after Lindsay’s murder I was present at a meeting that was called at a home near Spencer’s Castle. Matt MacDuff, Vid and three other people were there. Vid was pointing a gun at Jason and screamed at him “what did you see?” The meeting ended with no one hurt. You have to wonder why Jason would put himself in danger like that but I have come to the conclusion that Jason notified the police before he came to the house. Jason was probably wired. There were more meetings to follow but Jason was not present.

    • TC, what you are saying fits right into what Sgt. Horsley said on the podcast and the Crime Watch Daily show. It’s no damn wonder on the Dateline show Jason said he saw shadows through the frosted glass in the front door. His life would have been in danger if the conspirators realized that he had actually got a clear view of the killers standing outside the front door. We hear the podcast, then quickly jump to the conclusion that Jason was lying on Dateline. No wonder Vid was pointing a gun at Jason and demanding to know what he saw. He must have said, “I saw nothing.” Can you tell us whose home that meeting was held at? It’s obvious that whoever was there took part in the planning of Lindsay’s murder or at least someone like yourself who has information that could help this investigation.

      I believe Sgt Horsley when he said 5 more seconds and Jason would have run smack into them. The killers plan was to leave by the front door but their plan went wrong because their timing was slightly off. As there would have been no communication between the killers and the conspirators on the outside they were on their own. The pieces are slowly coming together and it’s clear that Jason was not deliberately lying on Dateline, he was doing what he needed to do to stay alive. Probably instructed to do so by the police.

      TC was that meeting held at a home up near Spencer’s Castle?

  95. To clear up any misconceptions it was Josh the Dateline correspondent who stated:

    “while visiting Calgary Lindsay made contact with at least two men, old friends she grew up with and just a month later one of those men was arrested in the Calgary drug bust.”

    Clearly, Lindsay did not grow up with Erickson. Josh also stated on Dateline that the burner phone was purchased WEEKS before she was murdered but we know the phone was purchased MONTHS before. People need to stop blaming the SP for stating things they did not STATE. Get your facts correct before you publish false information. A real investigator gets their facts correct.

  96. There are deflectors out there who want you to believe that the Saanich Police used the CVSA rather than a polygraph machine when polygraphing Jason Zailo and others. This is absolutely “false & misleading information” put out there by people trying to misdirect this investigation. The MacDuff, Rianne, and Vid watchers will do whatever they can to try and discredit the Zailos.

    By doing so they are discrediting the sincere and honest statements Lindsay’s sister Sara made on the Crime Watch Daily show, and the statements made by Det. Chris Horsley, and the Crime Show host. It’s a sad day when one refuses to take the word of a lead detective who has been investigating this case for years and is trying his utmost to put the truth out in the public eye.

    READ BELOW – THIS IS THE TRUTH

    Insp. Rob McColl, who is head of Saanich’s detective division (and Sampson’s boss) said the force stopped using the CVSA device for criminal investigations in 2007, not because they lost faith in its ability to detect lies, but because the RCMP installed a polygraph operator in Victoria, which made it more economical to use that device.

    He said Saanich police still use the CVSA device to screen prospective recruits.
    He says the CVSA was NOT used at any point during the unsolved Lindsay Buziak case, though polygraph tests were administered the investigation. http://www.vicnews.com/news/119616764.html?mobile=true
    old comment >>>>>
    “The Saanich Police does NOT use the CVSA for criminal investigations. If the Zailos were tested as stated by SPD, it was on a polygraph.”

    • Some people can’t let go of their theory because it will hurt their huge egos. They want to be right so bad! There has never been any evidence to suggest Jason or any member of the Zailo family were involved in Lindsay’s murder. It was just a bunch of made up rumors told by a few people that caused a witch hunt. The SP pretty much solved this case already they just need that one piece of critical information and they can hand the file over to the Crown. There are some who want to criticize the SP because no arrests have been made yet. I don’t see these same people solving the case. I see them fueling the rumors and keeping the witch hunt alive. It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to see that. Nine years of repeating the same debunked rumors that don’t even make common sense. Keep up the shoddy police work distractors.

    • Lindsay was so happy with Jason. You can see her glowing in all the photos. She was never this happy with Matt. I’m pleased to see Crime Watch Daily got it right! We all loved Lindsay and we all want justice.

  97. I watched Crime Watch Daily this morning “Murder For Sale” Jason’s actions that night seemed perfectly normal to me as well. Jason was under the assumption the showing was still in progress. After all, he saw the couple attempting to exit the house. Makes logical sense to me. I tried to explain that scenario to the people who were involved in the Zailo witch hunt but they are still focused on their witch hunt. My suggestion is to listen to the man who has all the facts and has access to the REAL INFORMATION! Don’t pay attention to rumors or made up gossip. Jason was cleared for a very good reason. If you remove all the rumors and gossip from the equation some may come to the realization they have it all wrong!!!! Focus on the Calgary people and the Calgary timeline!!!! Good job Mr. Horsley!!!!

    https://www.facebook.com/crimewatchdaily/

    • Yes, finally some truths. Gossip has stalled this case big time and it’s nice to see there is none of that going on here. The Calgary Drug Bust is the direction this investigation started in 2008 and it’s still the Calgary drug bust today. The Delalcazar brothers, Vid, and Rianne Gracia are involved. I’m kind of thinking that Lindsay’s ex-boyfriend is too. Only because he was close friends with them at the time Lindsay was murdered. I hope people steer away from Jason Zailo now that Det. Horsley has publically cleared him. Sure some things are still suspicious but there are answers for everything and we are just not privy to it all. I’m curious to know if Matt Macduff passed his polygraph. It’s never been said one way or the other?

  98. In 2010 Det.Sgt. Chris Horsley stated that Lindsay was NOT apprehensive about the showing. I wonder who started the rumor that Lindsay was nervous about the showing? Clearly, the SP have been able to debunk all the rumors the deflectors likely started long ago. Not only did they point their fingers at the Zailo’s they created a whole lot of rumors that unfortunately, some people bought into over the years.

    The timeline is slightly off in this media report. Dateline reported the timelines as being between 5:38-5:41.

    “Media reported widely that Buziak expressed trepidation at the showing, but Saanich police yesterday dismissed those reports, saying while Buziak felt the showing was unusual because she was not the listing agent, she wasn’t apprehensive about it.

    “While some reports indicated Buizk asked her boyfriend, real estate agent Jason Zailo, to check on her at the house, Horsley said Zailo went to the house because he had real estate documents for Buziak to sign.”
    https://www.pressreader.com/canada/times-colonist/20100630/281479272675347

  99. Crime Watch Daily to air on Friday, June 9, 2017 at 3:00 pm
    Channel 15 – FOX

    The Deadly Listing – A real estate agent, lured to a house by prospective buyers, is stabbed more than 40 times

  100. I was just looking over some things from the Crown Counsel website, specifically, this, regarding the ” Public Interest in a Prosecution”. It seems to me that Lindsay’s case, meets most of the criteria.

    Crown Counsel must determine whether the public interest requires a prosecution. Hard and fast rules cannot be imposed as the
    1 U.K., H.C. Debates, vol. 483, col. 681, (29 January 1951).
    Charge Assessment Guidelines Page 4 of 6 CHA 1
    public interest is determined by the particular circumstances of each case and the legitimate concerns of the local community. In making this assessment, the factors which Crown Counsel will consider include the following:
    1. Public Interest Factors in Favour of Prosecution
    It is generally in the public interest to proceed with a prosecution where the following factors exist or are alleged:
    (a) the allegations are serious in nature;
    (b) a conviction is likely to result in a significant sentence;
    (c) considerable harm was caused to a victim;
    (d) the use, or threatened use, of a weapon;
    (e) the victim was a vulnerable person, including children, elders, spouses and common law partners (see policies ABD 1, CHI 1, ELD 1 and SPO 1);
    (f) the alleged offender has relevant previous convictions or alternative measures;
    (g) the alleged offender was in a position of authority or trust;
    (h) the alleged offender’s degree of culpability is significant in relation to other parties;
    (i) there is evidence of premeditation;
    (j) the offence was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate based on race, national or ethnic origin, language, colour, religion, sex, age, mental or physical disability, sexual orientation, or any other similar factor (see policy HAT 1);
    (k) there is a significant difference between the actual or mental ages of the alleged offender and the victim;
    (l) the alleged offender committed the offence while under an order of the Court;
    (m) there are grounds for believing that the offence is likely to be continued or repeated;
    (n) the offence, although not serious in itself, is widespread in the area where it was committed;
    (o) the need to protect the integrity and security of the justice system and its personnel;
    (p) the offence is a terrorism offence;
    (q) the offence was committed for the benefit of, at the direction of or in association with a criminal organization.

    Like the Maple Battalia murder where charges were finally laid and justice was served. One goof charged as an accessory. Perhaps Vid and some others, should be concerned. ” Schultes said in his decision that the Crown’s case was based on inferences drawn from circumstantial evidence. He said it’s possible with large bodies of circumstantial evidence to find inconsistencies or alternative explanations for individual pieces, however, looking at the totality of the evidence, Bedi had to have a degree of knowledge of and involvement in the crime. “

    • This is not a cold case, it is an open and active file. The Saanich Police have continued to work this case for the last eight years and this speaks to their commitment and integrity. They need an air-tight case so that there can be no adverse effect on the integrity of the administration of justice. After 8 years it does seems like a lifetime of injustice, but that is not the reality. The reality is, the police need more evidence than what they have now. When arrests are made and this case finally goes to trial there will be no one getting off on technicalities, and the punishments will fit the crime.

  101. There are only a few reasons why someone would refuse to participate in a polygraph interview (lie detector)

    1. they have something to hide.
    2. they are/were involved in criminal activity
    3. they are not a decent person and don’t care about anyone but themselves
    4. they know they are guilty and the polygraph will give them away
    5. They have a criminal mentality “screw the system – I hate the cops”

    The police do not just polygraph anyone – it would be counter intuitive and rare that police would waste their time and expense on obtaining polygraphs from people they have no interest in.
    So if a person were to volunteer to take a polygraph the police might simply say, Thanks, but you are not a person of interest. Then that individual can move on knowing they did the right thing.

    The polygraph is simply an investigative tool to help the police move forward in their investigation. It will either eliminate or implicate a suspect or person of interest. It eliminates a potential block in an investigation.

    If a person is a suspect or person of interest and refuses to take a polygraph they become a target in the police investigation. They move up the ladder of suspicion to where tools such as surveillance and other investigative measures will be used. They will be a target and they will have no one to blame but themselves. An innocent person should not have to think twice about offering to take a polygraph. It is in everyone’s best interest.

    • Guilty people are masters of deception and would never volunteer to take a polygraph. Unfortunately a person cannot be forced to take one either.

      A lie by omission and half-truths is known as suppressed evidence.
      A guilty party can lie and say whatever they want. They have the advantage of not having to memorize so many facts, and they can make up new facts when the currently-existing ones don’t suit their purpose. The disadvantages are that when they do get caught in a lie, their credibility is destroyed and they can’t get it back.

      Projection is a psychological technique where someone accuses other people of the sins and crimes of which he/she is guilty. Projection is also a kind of reversal of reality which unfortunately one cannot live in forever, and lies are nothing more than a diversion from the truth. Lies are like a cancer in the soul. They eat away what is good and leave only destruction behind. … The lies one tells can prove to be costly in the end.

      • The worst enemies are the ones that hide in plain site. You see them as a trusted friend, confidant but in reality they have played and outsmarted you. Trust can be blind, and the blindness may be why this murder remains unsolved.

  102. A poster made this post last year and I still have my doubts about its validity.. My god, if it were true the SP would have been all over it at the time of the murder, as it could have been a key piece of evidence in their investigation. Why would this girlfriend not have gone directly to the police instead of waiting eight years to tell her story? Her boyfriend Christopher Swartz is a well-known criminal. Thefts, assaults, production of a controlled substance and trafficking in narcotics. If Jason really did come to her home that night to talk with Chris the cops should have been made aware immediately. Deflecting going on everywhere and Swartz’s’ girlfriend just may be a friend of all the goofs. The police have all the facts and that is what matters most.

    “The night JZ got released from police station after the murder, he came straight to my house to talk to my ex roommate, who was a drug dealer.. Dealing with Ziggy and all them guys. They went outside on the deck to chat so I didn’t get to hear what was said. But I do remember this, him showing up at my door I open the door and surprised to see him right after his gf just got brutally murdered, he didn’t look sad whatsoever, it was awful to see. That was very disturbing to me. I can’t comprehend why he had no expression or sadness. I will never forget that day.. Why would he want to talk with him ? I don’t believe he was contacted by the police. He was very well known by the police. He wasn’t exactly the perfect citizen. I don’t remember the time I do remember it begin in the evening.. It was quite dark out when they were sitting outside on deck.. I don’t know if their condo was closed off. I’m just guessing here but perhaps around 10 pm. He called my roommate to ask if he could stop by. I think with unknown number”.

  103. I am at a loss to understand why Charbel Hage is listed on this site as one of the conspirators. I know who the guy is but what connection does he have to Lindsay Buziak’s murder. As far as I know the guy has no connections to the others named as conspirators.

  104. The only reason Lindsay’s murder remains unsolved is because it is a very complex case. There was no DNA or fingerprints that could ID the killer’s, little to no forensics, no eyewitnesses, no confession, no murder weapon, NO SMOKING GUN! This makes the investigation EXTREMELY COMPLICATED! The Dateline experts gave their opinion that this case would not be solved based on “forensics”. “Someone who has information about Lindsay’s murder needs to step forward. This case will be solved based on “loose lips”. There are many other murder cases that fit into this same category and they too remain unsolved. You cannot charge someone with murder unless you have the EVIDENCE.

    Cases that are solved within the first 48 hours usually have an abundance of evidence left at the scene and other supporting evidence pointing directly to the killers. The Kimberly Proctor case is a perfect example. Unfortunately, in Lindsay’s case, LE know who is involved but they may not have sufficient evidence to prove it in a court of law. Criticizing the police is not going to speed up the process. There are individuals out there who have information that could advance this case but they are not talking. They hold the key.

    In 2008 Saanich Police said public tips weren’t needed to solve the case. A month after the killing, the family considered putting up a reward, but the police told them they had sufficient information and there was no need to do so. I’m pretty confident in saying that in 2008 the SP were likely aware who the conspirators were. I think someone who knew intimate details about the murder decided to REMAIN SILENT. The only way this murder is going to be solved is when someone talks!

    2008
    “When you don’t have a smoking gun, the investigation is COMPLEX, and I believe that the majority of your readers know that,” said Price.

    2009

    Police consider it a “whodunit,” not a simple “smoking gun” homicide, McColl said. “It’s common that these investigations are measured in YEARS, not months.”

  105. Some claim Shirley is a money launderer and gangster. For that narrative to be taken seriously we need evidence such as video which captures Shirley engaging in illegal money laundering and drug transactions. No one has come forward with any evidence to date. So far all I’ve heard are silly little rumors that have spread like wildfires. From what I know, the cops have been focusing on some of the people involved in the Calgary drug bust.

    • I too heard those silly rumors. It has been suggested by some that SRJZ is involved in the distribution of illegal narcotics, money laundering and conspiracy to commit murder. It has also been suggested SZ is a member of an unknown violent gang. So far no credible person has come forward to verify any of this is true. You have to consider where all this information is coming from.

      Possibilities to explain legitimate sources of income;

      1.SZ acquired her wealth from an inheritance, long-term employment income, financial investments and possible lottery winnings.

      2. Zailo’s used legitimate resources to purchase gifts, property, vehicles and vacations.It has been suggested they made some purchases to keep Lindsay in the fold.That is an assumption. Someone had suggested that Lindsay asked JSRZ where they got their money which led them to lie to her and tell her it was an inheritance. More innuendos.

      The Zs do not need to prove anything to anyone.Only to the authorities and they have done that.The Zs don’t owe the public any explanations or access to their personal financial records.There is no evidence to support that they used cash for any purchases prior to Lindsay’s murder. The case will be solved by educated, trained investigators who are on the right track.

      I am not a Z supporter I’m an impartial observer looking for the truth and justice for Lindsay. So far all I have observed is people repeating what other people told them. That is called 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th hand hearsay information.

    • There was also a rumor going around that Jason refused to provide a DNA sample. In Canada, when a person is arrested for a serious crime the police can obtain a DNA warrant to collect samples of bodily substances for investigative procedures (s. 487.05. s. 487.06). It was obvious a designated offence had been committed and Jason was at the crime scene. Saanich Police have said over and over again that Jason fully cooperated with the investigation so it’s hard to believe Jason would refuse to provide a DNA sample. I believe Jason provided a DNA sample considering he cooperated fully with the investigation. Since Jason was arrested the police did not require his authorization anyway.

      http://yourlaws.ca/criminal-code-canada/48705-information-warrant-take-bodily-substances

      “Crime scene investigators found NO FINGERPRINTS, DNA or other PHYSICAL evidence in the house. Zailo was initially arrested by Saanich police but was later cleared as a suspect.”

    • The Zailo’s are no innocents but they are not involved in this murder. What Lindsay saw was in 2006 and she was with MacDuff back then. Matt’s friends were all drug traffickers, charged with numerous assaults and weapons violations. Everyone knows how dangerous Matt’s crew was and what they were capable of. Accusations that Lindsay was extorting a high-level drug dealer could be true, but it wasn’t about money. No, she was threatening to give up whoever this person was for crimes she knew they had committed. A crime that could put them away for a long time. Lindsay could have witnessed a murder, or had inside knowledge about someone that had gone missing. She may have had enough evidence to at least get the police investigating. How high up the ladder was Matt MacDuff? Just look at this perfect pose picture of Matt standing between Eldreigson and Jefferson. The way he has his arms around them is as if he rules the roost and their body language shows respect. MacDuff could have been a Queen Bee in the scheme of things and Lindsay just may have known something that could have put her ex-boyfriend away for a long time. Not Jason Zailo.

  106. Another rumor that was circulating was that Jason was sitting outside while Lindsay was being murdered. That is not true. Lindsay was already dead when Jason and his friend arrived at the house. With all these rumors floating around, no wonder people are stuck on the Zailo’s did it.

    The cops have it right. That’s all that matters. Justice is near.

  107. February 2, 2009 presser

    “The female caller spoke with a foreign accent.”

    “The female caller with the foreign accent called Lindsay and asked Lindsay to show her the million dollar home.”

    “Jason was cleared as a suspect and he and his friend continue to cooperate fully with the investigation.”

    “Police have interviewed 100’s of people and want SOME OF THEM to do the right thing. ONE of these people has the information we need to solve this but for whatever reason be it, fear, loyalty, or criminal intentions they are not talking.”

    • “Police said the killers were planning the murder in late 2007, which was when a cell phone used exclusively for the crime was purchased in Vancouver. The phone was activated in January 2008 and traveled from the Vancouver area to Greater Victoria sometime in the 24 hours before Buziak’s murder.”

      Notice how the police said the “THE PHONE” travelled from the Vancouver area, not THE COUPLE? We know VID was at the BC Ferries that night and the crime phone pinged from a cell tower outside his home. It’s possible the crime phone was passed off to VID and THE COUPLE was from the Island. The cell phone was used as a distraction and that was it!

  108. Jason’s actions at the DeSousa home:

    After Jason and his friend arrived at the DeSousa property Jason’s actions make perfect sense to me. Jason had no knowledge his girlfriend had been murdered so his movements at the crime scene seem pretty normal to me. Think with an open mind. Remember, Jason had no indication his girlfriend was in danger or that she had just been murdered.

    Jason and friend arrive at 5:45 and see people at the front door. They see a man exiting but the man turns around and goes back inside. Put yourself in Jason’s shoes. He likely assumed the showing was still going on and sat outside. I would do the same under the same circumstances. Remember, Jason had no knowledge Lindsay was in danger or that she had just been murdered so why is everyone expecting Jason to run into the house? Jason continued to sit outside and was likely shooting the breeze with his friend.

    6:00 pm Jason started to get a little worried because he had not seen the couple leave. He knew there was no car in the driveway so he may have assumed if the couple left he should have seen them walk by his vehicle or something. There is only one exit route off Desousa and Jason was parked there. At 6:05 Jason sent Lindsay a text and she did not respond. Now Jason began to worry and he and his friend walked to the front door. They saw Lindsay’s shoes lying on the floor. They didn’t see or hear anyone and the door was locked! Now Jason had every right to go into PANIC MODE. I’m sure he rang the bell and knocked on the door too but the public was not made aware of those details. Jason and his friend looked for a way to get in. Jason called 911 and requested a welfare check. That is a very common thing to do when you are concerned about someone. Makes perfect sense why Jason called 911 because the door was locked and he didn’t see the couple leave. He had no reason to call 911 when he arrived at 5:45 because he did not know his girlfriend was in danger or that she had been murdered. He thought the showing was still in progress. He had no reason to go inside the house either. Remember, everything seemed NORMAL.

    Police were en route when Jason’s friend gained access to the house. He opened the front door and let Jason in. We don’t know the details of what Jason did but rumors have been circulating that he pushed by his friend and ran straight upstairs. Maybe that didn’t happen? And, if it did, so what. By this time he was growing anxious and figured his friend didn’t see anything on the main floor when he gained access so Jason went on gut instinct and ran upstairs. Once he got to the top of the stairs he saw Lindsay’s body. The second 911 call was made but cops were already en route. They obviously sent additional units out after the second 911 call.

    Jason’s actions seem pretty normal under the circumstances. People are way to focused on the RUMORS and developed a theory based solely on rumors. The investigators on this case know what went down and they cleared Jason. People are under the assumption that everyone is a suspect until arrests are made but that is simply not true. Think about it, we have over 350,000 people on this Island. Are we all suspects? NO! Why would the investigators need to publicly clear people who are NOT on their suspect list? The police made it crystal clear why they cleared the Zailo’s, particularly Jason. It was because of all the finger-pointing. The investigator’s know what they are doing here. It’s the web detectives who think they know it all when they don’t. Some actually believe they can solve this case. In all seriousness, how is that even possible when they have no access to files or any of the real knowledge the detectives have? Some are even asking people to go take a polygraph. Do they think the police will give them the results? So how can the web detectives eliminate a person of interest based on a poly which they have no idea who passed or failed?

    I find it quite humorous how people will attack the police for lack of arrests yet the web detectives have not made any arrests either. HOW COME? Too busy eating donuts on the couch?

    • You have made some interesting points. “If” Jason is innocent on all counts then I would agree. But the police have been known to publically clear a suspect then years later arrest that person. Today I don’t believe Jason was part of the conspiracy but I do have to wonder if he sensed that something wasn’t right and he stalled, making sure he was late. He took a friend. Why? There was no reason for it, unless he was afraid of what might happen to him if he got there on time. He could have been worried about his own safety. I agree with you that the police are doing everything in their power to see this through to the end. I am sure the family, friends, and by-standers waiting for justice are feeling the frustration but this is a complex case with twists and turns that we can’t even begin to imagine. The SP know what they are doing.

      • If Jason was involved he would not have encouraged Lindsay to attend the stagette in Vancouver that night. Jason actually offered to do the showing for Lindsay so she could attend the stagette. Lindsay decided to do the showing herself and cancelled her trip to Vancouver. If Jason was involved and Lindsay took Jason up on his offer, she would not have been murdered.

        If Jason was concerned for his own safety why did he go inside the house? Jason and his friend had a hockey game that night. That’s why his friend was with him. It’s pretty normal to be with friends. Not sure why people have made such a big deal about Jason having a friend with him.

        This case will be solved when the person who knows starts talking. It will happen, trust me.

  109. The REAL people behind this murder set it up to make it look like the Z’s were responsible. Someone with inside knowledge of Lindsay’s personal life. Someone who knew Lindsay was having temporary relationship problems with Jason. From all accounts, Lindsay told some people she was planning on leaving Jason. She told them approx. THREE MONTHS before she was murdered. Lindsay then decided to give her relationship with Jason another try. I don’t believe Lindsay even told Jason she was thinking about leaving him. He wasn’t lying on Dateline, he probably had no idea what she told others. I think something happened during the THREE MONTH time span when Lindsay was thinking about leaving Jason. Is it possible Lindsay ran into her ex and the sparks began to ignite again? How many young women Lindsay’s age have gone to a bar, ran into an ex, and things started to heat up? Next thing you know, you leave the bar together. Unfortunately, there can be dire consequences when you both have other partners in your life.

    I heard from one of Lindsay’s friends that Lindsay’s ex’s girlfriend and Lindsay had a physical fight. There were people there who witnessed it. So you have to ask yourself, what would Lindsay’s ex’s girlfriend and Lindsay be fighting about? The only thing two women usually fight over is a MAN. This physical fight happened approx. ONE WEEK before Lindsay was murdered. Why was Lindsay so upset over Matt? Lindsay wasn’t crying over Jason she was crying over Matt. WHY?

    I believe the plan all along was to put as much focus as possible on the COUPLE and make it appear as though they came from the mainland. Criminals are well aware of cell phone pings yet they allowed their electronic tracks to be traced. Why? The female suspect wore a very colorful dress not to take the focus off her face, rather she wore it to put the focus on herself and her partner. The murder was set up to make it appear as though the Zailo’s hired a couple to murder Lindsay. It was set up to appear as though only someone with real estate knowledge could have planned the murder. Therefore, it had to be the Zailo’s. Problem is, you don’t have to have ANY real estate knowledge to set up the murder the way it was set up. Anyone can pick up a phone and make an appt. to see some property. All they needed was a good story and they had one. You don’t have to be a realtor to come up with a story that your husband was being transferred and you needed to buy in 2-3 days. Rianne had knowledge of the DeSousa property. Rianne knew the dates it was listed, when it was taken off the market, then relisted again. The Desousa property was listed November 8, 2007(crime phone purchased late Nov 07), taken off the market in late December 07, then relisted on January 9, 2008(crime phone activated Jan 08). We’ve all wondered at one time or another why if the crime phone was purchased in late November 2007 did the killer’s wait so long to murder Lindsay? Well, maybe because the Desousa property was taken off the market for a short period. We know the couple requested to view that specific house!! Since the house went off the market in December 2007 the plan was likely put on hold until the house went back on the market.

    Crime scene staging may be seen in violent crimes in which the perpetrator is closely associated with the victim and needs to direct attention to other suspects. Staging is usually obvious to a trained investigator who knows that the crime scene does not make sense. Lindsay’s wounds were not consistent with a “Contract Hit”(the couple) they were more consistent with a “Domestic/Personal” type murder(excessive trauma beyond that necessary to cause death.) yet a couple murdered Lindsay. This doesn’t make SENSE. Primary staging includes providing false information to the police relative to the crime, with specific criminal intent to misdirect or divert a police investigation away from the true facts and circumstances of the crime. In homicide cases, perpetrators who are familiar with the victim know they will be considered a SUSPECT due to their relationship to the victim. Staging is used to make it appear that SOMEONE ELSE COMMITTED the murder and divert the attention over to them. Who ran to the police station screaming “The Zailo’s did it?” Those are the people I would be focused on. If you are going to accuse someone of murder, at least have a viable theory. To accuse someone of murder for NINE years but have no valid theory is ridiculous. By pointing your fingers at the Zailo’s you probably put yourselves at the top of the suspect list.

    • I think it’s possible Matt and Lindsay re-connected a few months before the murder and yes those old sparks were reunited. Her close friends would have shared what they knew with law enforcement. Lindsay had been drawn back to Matt a few times, abusers have a built-in charm that is like a magnet to a woman who is in love, or at least thinks she is. After their last big breakup, Matt wrote Lindsay a letter and talked about how the drugs and alcohol had taken control of his life and made him do things he was not proud of. He admitted he was unstable and needed to get help for his addiction. He was afraid of what he might do if he didn’t get help. Lindsay always reached out to her mom in troubled times and Evelyn always knew what Lindsay was going through with Matt. It was a cycle of abuse that her mom wanted to see end.

      Here we are 9 years later and no arrests. Where is that one special person who has the information that could help the SP bring this investigation to an end. Matt has a lovely home and family and Jason moved on with his life too. When does Lindsay’s family get to move on?

      • The content of Matt’s letter matches with what Shirley said on Dateline. Shirley said on Dateline that Lindsay told her she was afraid of Matt and that she was disappointed at the way Matt had treated Lindsay during the relationship. People accused Shirley of lying but the reality is, Shirley was telling the truth. Matt was definitely on Lindsay’s mind the DAY before she was murdered. Not only was Lindsay crying to one of her friends about Matt she was also talking to her boyfriend’s Mother about Matt. Both, the day before she was murdered! Lindsay was upset about something, but what? If they had not had any contact for MONTHS prior as stated by Josh on Dateline, then why would Lindsay be having a breakdown over Matt? You have to ask yourself, why was Lindsay so focused on Matt in a negative way the day before she was murdered? I think there is something very telling here. Lindsay actually told Shirley she was afraid of Matt. I believe this to be true! Lindsay’s own Mother believes Matt is involved in Lindsay’s murder.

    • Matt’s defense of the Delalcazar brothers and Vid is disturbing to say the least and can mean only one thing. He has something to hide. It’s public knowledge that Vid beats women. He was charged with beating his ex-girl friend, the mother of his young daughter. She was hospitalized for weeks and Vid went to jail. Unfortunately his threats and intimidation forced her into silence and the Crown stayed the charges. There were other women he beat and we all know who they are. . Erickson and Jefferson beat their woman too, and did jail time. Jefferson spent a month in jail for beating Melissa B, and when she refused to testify the Crown was forced to drop the charges. She is still with Jeffers today and supports his drug trafficking business. Erickson is notorious for beating his women, he thinks its his God-given right. Last year he gave his girlfriend two black eyes. No charges were ever laid but at least she had the common sense to detach from him. Eldreigson has a violent past history, but seems to be reined in by Sarah these days. The brothers have no respect for women, in fact they have no respect for human life, and they would not have thought twice if ordered to participate in Lindsay Buziak’s murder. I re-iterate, why would Matt be so protective of these guys?

  110. Look very carefully at this picture. Jason is not pointing the knife in the direction of Lindsay like some want you to believe. He is actually pointing it towards his friend.
    Jason holding butter knife

    • The Saanich Police cleared Jason of being involved in Lindsay’s murder and I think it’s important to take them at their word. I see nothing to support the rumors that Lindsay was afraid of Jason, or that she was leaving Remax to get away from him. Lindsay was not leaving Remax, she was just relocating to a Remax office closer to downtown where she was living, and Jason’s mother managed that office too. Who said she was waiting for some deals to close? That makes no sense because Lindsay would have received her commission cheques no matter where she was. Lindsay spent nearly an hour at Sauce having a late lunch with Jason before going up to the Desousa house. That does not sound like a girl who was anxious to get away from him. She could have asked anyone to check up on her at the showing, but she asked Jason, so she obviously was not afraid of him. If Jason had arrived 5- 10 minutes earlier the murderers might have been scared off, and maybe Jason lives with that thought everyday.

      • The SP said that Lindsay Buziak was “lured” to the home by a man and a woman who said they were interested in viewing the million-dollar property at 1702 De Sousa Pl. in Gordon Head. Lindsay did not pick the Desousa home to show the couple, they chose it and told her they would meet her there at 5:30 pm. Whoever planned this murder was someone very close to Lindsay, someone who knew that home was vacant, and someone who knew that Jason would not be there sharp at 5:30.

        • There was so much talk about a referral client when in fact the referral client did not exist. Lindsay asked the woman “who had recommended her” and the woman said it was someone her husband knew. She wasn’t sure. Lindsay did not pursue it any further. Lindsay referred to the clients as the Mexicans, because she didn’t have her name. The killer couple had been briefed by the conspirators, and were probably told that Lindsay liked nice things and needed the money. Someone very close to Lindsay knew this and knew that Lindsay could not resist that $1mil sale. They made it personal but really, there is no realtor that would have passed up this opportunity.

          • It’s a normal reaction for Lindsay’s dad to be worried about his daughter going to the showing alone, so he encouraged her to get the name of the referral client and take someone with her. However I can also see Lindsay appeasing her dad by telling him that Jason would be with her and that she had contacted the referral client when in fact, she hadn’t. She was young and had no reason to suspect that she was in any danger, and if Jason is innocent as the police say he is, then he had no reason to suspect anything was wrong either. Realtors take risks all the time, even the experienced ones.

      • Who goes on a vacation with a guy you’re afraid of or going to be leaving soon? Who accepts Christmas gifts from a guy you’re going to leave? I believe Jason. Lindsay was not going to leave him. Maybe she had some thoughts of doing so but she obviously changed her mind. In all seriousness, there are so many rumors out there about Jason people really need to think things through before rushing to judgment. No wonder there is a witch hunt going on. Jason was not supposed to be with Lindsay at the house that day. That’s another rumor. I think one of Lindsay’s girlfriends agreed to meet her there but was a no show. Lindsay had to call Jason at the last minute and pull him out of a scheduled meeting. Why would Lindsay have to CALL JASON and ask him meet her at the house if the plan was he would be there in the first place? Seriously, if you dissect all the rumors and use some common sense you can figure it out. No wonder the Zailo’s were ruled out as suspects. There is ZERO evidence to support they had anything to do with the murder. All RUMORS! Detectives don’t compile a suspect list based on rumors.

        “Just before meeting these potential clients, Lindsay made a phone call to her boyfriend Jason Zailo, who agreed to meet her at the house.”

  111. Rianne Gracia was in a relationship with Vid Acevedo around the time of Lindsay’s murder, and she worked as a part-time receptionist in the Remax office where Lindsay worked. She knows something but she’s not talking, and she won’t volunteer to take a polygraph. Rianne Gracia is not “new” to murder. In late 2001 (she was 19) her boyfriend Ryan Kam was murdered. Ryan kept an apartment in Coquitlam but travelled back and forth to Victoria. He was a multi-pound cocaine trafficker who associated with very shady characters. He was lured to a home in Vancouver and brutally murdered. Members of Coquitlam’s RMCP Serious Crimes Division found Kam’s body in a grave in a remote wilderness area near Whistler BC on “Feb 2nd” 2002. I guess Rianne learned nothing from losing her boyfriend to drugs and murder because she continued to date gangsters and losers like Vid.

    Avoid the “short & fast life circle”. It’s deadly.

    • I have always believed a female is the mastermind behind Lindsay’s murder. Women are very detailed orientated and excellent planners. A detail oriented person pays attention to the details and Lindsay’s murder was carefully planned.

      Lindsay and Ryan Kam’s murder have similar features. Both were lured to homes and executed by surprise attack. Lindsay was murdered the same date but different year (February 2) that Ryan’s body was found. That date could have significant meaning to someone in a warped way.

      Rianne was likely aware that Jason would not be accompanying Lindsay to the showing as he had a meeting. He was never supposed to be there at 5:30. The plan was to meet Lindsay AFTER. This was confirmed by an employee of re/max many years ago.

      People can’t seem to let go of the rumor that Jason was supposed to be with Lindsay when she met the mystery couple. It’s simply not true. Even the detectives on the case stated Jason was supposed to MEET Lindsay at the house not accompany her to the house.

      I think the killer’s had knowledge they had a small window of time to execute their plan and Jason just happened to arrive a little earlier than expected. Unfortunately, since Jason found Lindsay’s body he’s been deemed guilty for being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

      • The experts on Dateline had unprecedented access to police files and they all agreed that Lindsay was murdered by someone close to her.

      • The podcast changed everyone’s thinking when they heard that Jason had actually seen the male standing outside the front door. It means the couple never intended to leave through the back, which tells us they were not concerned with anyone recognizing them as they escaped out the front.. It also suggests that the male kicked the fence boards from the inside out in the rush to escape through the back. The rumors that the fence boards were removed by the owner to allow the painters access never made any sense. It would be interesting to know who started that rumor. I never believed that Joe DeSousa said the little bitch got what she deserved. Joe and Paul Bergshoeff were NOT good friends, merely acquaintances. This could have been just another rumor started to divert the investigation towards the Zailo family.

  112. I would like to address the rumors regarding the extent of Lindsay’s wounds. The FIRST wound would definitely be HOLDBACK and would NEVER be made public to ANYONE. Only the killers would know that information. Sure a number of first responders and witnesses saw Lindsay’s body but her body was clothed. From my understanding, her Father saw her body in the morgue but he never once said he saw her wounds. Therefore, how would her Father know which wound was the first wound? That information is HOLDBACK. Common sense prevails here.

    You can debate that topic until the cows come home but it won’t change the outcome of a protocol. Obviously, the pathologist knows the extent of Lindsay’s wounds and documented everything in the autopsy report. Since the report is SEALED where are these people who claim to know the extent of Lindsay’s wounds getting their information? Sure the Detectives working on this case know the details but they would NEVER divulge critical information like that. It could jeopardize the integrity of the investigation.

    “There are many aspects of this file, such as the extent of the injuries Lindsay suffered, that must be protected in order to preserve the integrity of the investigation, and prevent any negative impact in its course,” Brajcich, said.

    ‘At the same time, investigators confirmed that Ms. Buziak died from multiple stab wounds, according to a forensic autopsy conducted Tuesday. But in order to protect the ongoing investigation, they wouldn’t reveal the extent of her injuries, other than to say there was no evidence she was sexually assaulted.’

    The truth always finds its way out and hopefully, there are arrests soon.

  113. Lindsay’s murder is connected to the people involved in the January 2008 Calgary Drug Bust. Cocaine was the drug of choice in Calgary and that shipment from Victoria was destined to stay in Calgary. We know that Lindsay was not the snitch but those who played a part in planning her murder believed she was. Drug dealers become suspicious of their own shadows and a $8 million street value is a huge loss and someone had to pay the price. Erickson Delalcazar did his time after being convicted in 2008. His brothers and anyone else who fronted money for that bust would have wanted payback. Some say Lindsay was threatening to extort a drug dealer who had powerful connections. Even if there was some truth to it, it’s clear Lindsay had no idea just how dangerous these people were.

    http://www.canada.com/news/British+Columbians+Calgarians+charged+Alberta+biggest+ever+cocaine+bust/1675695/story.html

    • January 6th 2017 Erickson Delalcazar & Vid Acevedo were arrested and charged with possession for the purpose of trafficking. West Shore RMCP raided Erickson’s residence on Jacklin Road. Seized in that raid was $26,000 cash and illicit drugs which included 600 pills. The Delalcazar brothers are known criminals as is their good friend Vid Acevedo. They have been selling drugs since they were right out of high school, and are still doing so today. Drugs are killing people in the streets of Victoria, Langford, Saanich and elsewhere. How many more people have to die? Why doesn’t the justice system step in and shut this criminal organization down, once and for all. They are murderers and definitely involved in Lindsay Buziak’s murder.

      http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/men-arrested-in-langford-drug-operation-released-on-bail-1.7594756

    • The podcast shared new information that people should pay close attention to. Vid, Medardo, and two Delalcazar brothers met up one hour after Lindsay’s murder, and this can’t be a co-incidence.
      It’s too early to hit the clubs so why were they meeting up so early? If Jason had money invested in that drug shipment I could see him being involved in this conspiracy, but that does not make one bit of sense as he would not put himself at the scene of the crime and have all the fingers pointing at a real-estate connection.

      It’s looking more like Jason was set up by people who wanted us to believe that realtors were involved. It was Lindsay’s ex-boyfriend Matt that was closely connected to the guys named in this podcast. He was good friends with the Delalcazars and Vid. I don’t believe he is involved in Lindsay’s murder but I’d bet my life that he knows exactly who is involved and why Lindsay was killed. He was too close to them not to know. Follow the money because that’s where the trail always starts and ends.

      • Don’t be too quick to rule out the ex-boyfriend Matt. He’s been accusing the Zailo’s for years and what does he base his theory on? Ziggy Matheson? Ziggy is a small town player in comparison to the heavy hitters Matt associated with. The Delalcazar bros, Cirilo Lopez, Vid are a criminal organization, and let’s not forget Jas Bains. Mr. Big, drug kingpin of the island not so many years ago. Matt has had their backs all these years. He could be deliberately misdirecting this investigation in order to cover for them. Nothing is impossible. No one wants to go down for murder and the conspirators will use people (friends & family) to help misdirect. The good thing is the cops know who the conspirators are and what they are up to. They aren’t fooling anyone.

        “The best way to control this group is to let them think they are in control.”

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